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Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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Post by krisoft »

MiSeRyDeee wrote: post #19

This will be inherently inaccurate because data was based on public AIS signal, but ships are turning off their AIS to avoid detection. > In an attempt to evade detection, many ships appear to be deliberately switching off their tracking system - known as AIS (Automatic Identification System). https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4geg0eeyjeo

Everyone talks about the AIS signal being turned off in the strait as if it is an insurmountable problem.

Ships had their AIS on before the war, and will turn it on again once they left the area. So we can just filter for ships which previously reported a location in the Persian Gulf, and now are reporting outside of it. Similarly we can count ships which were outside of the Gulf and now are inside. We don’t need the AIS to be on while they are transiting.

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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Post by golem14 »

dewey wrote: post #160
golem14 wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do these ships not use transponders? E.g., in the US you can use a SDR dongle and a RPI to read local updates. The straight isn't very wide. Seems cheaper than the cigars and cash.

Transponders get turned off all the time, especially if you don't want to be targeted.

Are they though, in the straight ? I'm not sure it's such a great move, TBH:

Given that the baddies clearly can locate ships and see that there's no transponder, and come to the conclusion they need. "Hmm, it turned off transponders and is now moving toward the straight. It's a tanker, and not one of ours, or Russia's or China's. Let's bomb it!"

Also, pragmatically, you could look at the transponders suddenly not showing up anymore as a sign of attempt of passage, especially if they show up later on the other side.

But yes, that would no longer be very realtime.

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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Post by jojobas »

baq wrote: post #157
anonfunction wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Totally agree, I put some text and tried to make it clear. My first intention was to find some live ship tracking API and see how many ships cross the strait, but they were all hundreds of dollars a month, and behind enterprise contact forms.

You need to send an analyst there with binoculars, a box of cigars and $15k in cash to get realtime trustworthy data

The strait is wider than horizon distance from reasonable heights. Also that's how you don't hear back from the analyst in many different ways.

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

#165

Post by gloosx »

Hello OP, I think using an ai agent to fetch the JSON is a bit of an overkill

Here is a node.js script for you which will fetch the data and save it to the file:

  import fs from 'fs'
  import puppeteer from 'puppeteer-extra'
  import StealthPlugin from 'puppeteer-extra-plugin-stealth'
  puppeteer.use(StealthPlugin())

  const browser = await puppeteer.launch();
  const page = await browser.newPage();

  async function fetchCoords(x, y, z = 8, station = 0) {
    await  page.goto(`https://www.marinetraffic.com/getData/get_data_json_4/z:${z}/X:${x}/Y:${y}/station:${station}`);

    const jsonRaw = await page.evaluate(() => document.body.innerText);

    const json = JSON.parse(jsonRaw)

    return json
  }

  const data8353 = await fetchCoords(83, 53)

  const data8453 = await fetchCoords(84, 53)

  const data8354 = await fetchCoords(83, 54)

  const data8454 = await fetchCoords(84, 54)

  const fullData = { ...data8353, ...data8453, ...data8354, ...data8454 }

  fs.writeFileSync('data.json', JSON.stringify(fullData, null, 2))

  console.log('done!')

  process.exit(0)
Just like this, no need to spend a cent on expensive APIs or tokens

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

#166

Post by quantummagic »

spiderfarmer wrote: post #147
femiagbabiaka wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's because Israel killed hundreds of civilians in Lebanon today.

It's only hard to tell if you rely on the US billionaire controlled media.

It's been very hard to watch how many people who, a few years ago, believed everything the media said about say the pandemic, now claim you can't trust them at all. Time makes "conspiracy theorists" out of all of us -- it can be hard to see just how much the media lies and distorts, until they start talking about something you care about.

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

#167

Post by zorked »

golem14 wrote: post #162
dewey wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Transponders get turned off all the time, especially if you don't want to be targeted.

Are they though, in the straight ? I'm not sure it's such a great move, TBH: Given that the baddies clearly can locate ships and see that there's no transponder, and come to the conclusion they need. "Hmm, it turned off transponders and is now moving toward the straight. It's a tanker, and not one of ours, or Russia's or China's. Let's bomb it!" Also, pragmatically, you could look at the transponders suddenly not sho…

The fleet serving Iran and Russia does not use transponders. It's a large fleet. Ships without transponders are just a fact of life in shipping.

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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Post by nodesocket »

watwut wrote: post #156
nodesocket wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agree 100% that prediction markets are the wild-wild-west with no insider trading protections, pump and dump, and no oversight. It’s perverting the wisdom of the crowd and efficient market thesis.

>It’s perverting the wisdom of the crowd and efficient market thesis. I mean, looking at futures and stocks now, I dont believe in those anymore anyway.

typical HN comment when it comes to finance and the stock market. Over and over again the wisdom of the HN crowd is wrong in regards to stocks. Intel at its bottom (they are done, and doomed, listening to main stream media) perfect time to buy and load up. This has occurred over and over again in my 15 years being on HN, almost always they call a bottom.

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

#169

Post by spwa4 »

Obviously the situation has significantly improved since then, your website is given outdated information.

https://www.vesselfinder.com/?p=OMKHS001 (click on map, zoom out). At this moment ~18 ships transiting. Not sure what the normal capacity is, and I think it's probably a bit more than this ... but it's at least mostly open.

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