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US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Post by GorbachevyChase »

anigbrowl wrote: post #360
smcnc wrote: post #237

I don’t see how the majority of comments paint this as a victory for Iran. Your entire formal military apparatus was destroyed, nuclear sites in rubble, defense industrial complex leveled, two levels of leadership KIA, and the only thing preventing you from permanent destruction or regime change is an impotent threat of attacking ships? I guess I’m missing something. War sucks but in this case Iran is a shell of the…

Perhaps stop taking the administration's claims at face value. Their army has not been destroyed. They continue to launch missiles daily and have been extraordinarily successful in targeting US/Israel radar and defensive assets throughout the region. They have suffered air force and naval losses, but if you look back at analysis from before the war started, exactly nobody considered the Iranian air force or navy to b…

In your hypothetical scenario of the US losing its political leadership, we would probably be better off.

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Post by scythe »

giantg2 wrote: post #233
storus wrote: post #199

Does this mean that Iran will have functional nukes in two weeks? Given how previous "ceasefires" turned out (blowing up their leadership), I don't think they are naive again and don't seem desperate to end it.

Given how the past nuclear deals went over decades, there's little hope of follow through now.

JCPoA compliance was verified by the US and the IAEA regularly until the agreement was suspended by Donald Trump in 2018.

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Post by sequoia »

idle_zealot wrote: post #80

We already attacked Iran twice during "talks," is there any indication that we mean it this time, or are we just going to bomb them again while negotiations are ongoing?

Ceasefires are not in place until they are in place. Before they are in place, war is still ongoing. Discussing a ceasefire does not mean there is a ceasefire currently.

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Post by lokar »

smcnc wrote: post #237

I don’t see how the majority of comments paint this as a victory for Iran. Your entire formal military apparatus was destroyed, nuclear sites in rubble, defense industrial complex leveled, two levels of leadership KIA, and the only thing preventing you from permanent destruction or regime change is an impotent threat of attacking ships? I guess I’m missing something. War sucks but in this case Iran is a shell of the…

You think the US could destroy the regime, but has not? Can you explain? How would this work?
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