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Microsoft hasn't had a coherent GUI strategy since Petzold

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Re: Microsoft hasn't had a coherent GUI strategy since Petzold

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Post by RajT88 »

PacificSpecific wrote: post #20
regularfry wrote: post #8

Having spent some time kicking around the Delphi space I got quite into WPF in 2007ish. By 2010 I had not just sworn off it, I'd sworn off Windows entirely. The constant stream of rug-pulls as one bit of MS managed to pull off a political heist over another and - oh no - yet another "latest and greatest" technology was effectively deprecated within 18 months of launch, invalidating all the effort you put in to stayin…

If I'm writing Windows desktop GUIs I still stick to WPF. Might be Stockholm syndrome but I quite like it. I don't see the reason to use any of the new ms ui frameworks. Especially if ms themselves don't even really use them. As far as I know visual studio is still a WPF project so I'm not super worried about it no longer working.

WPF looks much nicer. Personally I find it hard as hell to debug.

Winforms just work, and have a well defined set of behaviors. It does not matter that they do not look as nice for most people.

Re: Microsoft hasn't had a coherent GUI strategy since Petzold

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Post by okanat »

OptionOfT wrote: post #25

Case in point after Edge updated this morning: https://imgur.com/a/dWp5Ohj Did they even try to make it look like the new context menus?

Well, Edge is Chromium. They need to maintain a hard fork, not just a reskin with a bunch of Microsoft webpages and adware. Chromium basically allocates a window and completely draws everything inside using DirectX APIs including menus.

Re: Microsoft hasn't had a coherent GUI strategy since Petzold

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Post by antiframe »

api wrote: post #31

Nobody really has. Apple comes the closest but they keep rug pulling it in weird ways. Windows and Mac in the 90s had very consistent GUIs with such consistency in things like keyboard shortcuts that apps could easily be learned. The term “intuitive” was king in the realm of UI design. Then the web hit and all that died.

Not nobody. KDE has a functional and consistent GUI.

Re: Microsoft hasn't had a coherent GUI strategy since Petzold

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Post by stinkbeetle »

furyofantares wrote: post #3

> Dead silence. One person suggested WPF. Another said WinUI 3. A third asked if they should just use Electron. The meeting went sideways and we never did answer the question. > That silence is the story. These LLMs are just awful at writing.

Yes they really do a great job at mimicking awful human writing of that horrendous style, whatever it's called. Post-TED NPR style bougie blogging let's say.

Re: Microsoft hasn't had a coherent GUI strategy since Petzold

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Post by operatingthetan »

furyofantares wrote: post #3

> Dead silence. One person suggested WPF. Another said WinUI 3. A third asked if they should just use Electron. The meeting went sideways and we never did answer the question. > That silence is the story. These LLMs are just awful at writing.

This site needs a no LLM submissions policy too.
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