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Microsoft hasn't had a coherent GUI strategy since Petzold

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Re: Microsoft hasn't had a coherent GUI strategy since Petzold

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> Dead silence. One person suggested WPF. Another said WinUI 3. A third asked if they should just use Electron. The meeting went sideways and we never did answer the question. > That silence is the story. These LLMs are just awful at writing.

I felt fatigued after the second paragraph. All these LLM tropes chained together are horrible to read.

Re: Microsoft hasn't had a coherent GUI strategy since Petzold

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Bill pretty much chilled out since he stepped down?

Yeah of course. He has nothing to do with Microsoft operations or strategy. But does he still use the products?

He still visits Microsoft occasionally. A friend showed me a picture of him visiting Microsoft in Beijing a few months ago (he was excited about BillG visiting). So my guess is that he still has an interest in Microsoft products.

Re: Microsoft hasn't had a coherent GUI strategy since Petzold

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Having spent some time kicking around the Delphi space I got quite into WPF in 2007ish. By 2010 I had not just sworn off it, I'd sworn off Windows entirely. The constant stream of rug-pulls as one bit of MS managed to pull off a political heist over another and - oh no - yet another "latest and greatest" technology was effectively deprecated within 18 months of launch, invalidating all the effort you put in to stayin…

Microsoft had a lot of great talent suffering from a lack of leadership and coherent vision. They foreshadowed everything wrong with Big Tech today.

Re: Microsoft hasn't had a coherent GUI strategy since Petzold

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I used the more recent Petzold examples to successfully bind DirectWrite to Direct3D, but yeah it’s been a crapshoot otherwise. Still have the Windows Programming (5e?) bible around here somewhere. Took awhile to grind through it. I dread modern-day windows programming it seems like every OS release some new API is going to overtake the others. I moved on.

Re: Microsoft hasn't had a coherent GUI strategy since Petzold

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The problem is that they just could not commit to anything for more than 2 years after Win32.

They had something reasonably good in WinRT. They should have stuck to that. But Nadella came in, said Azure Cloud is the future and abandoned the Windows platform.

Re: Microsoft hasn't had a coherent GUI strategy since Petzold

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post #10

Today i still use C# with Windows.Forms. All my old knowledge is still usefull. People know how to use a Windows.Forms program.

It’s great, some vendors have fantastic component libraries for reasonable prices.

Unreal that MS bet the farm in Windows on so many other turds instead of boring old WinForms/Win32.

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