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Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

#271

How does Anthropic detect that a person is using OpenClaw vs using Claude Code? Forgive me if someone asked this already and I can't find it in the comments.

The bun executable attests the code by sending a signature along. I'm not sure what why we can't simply clone that signature, though.

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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How can an OpenClaw user use 6 times what a human subscriber is using when I'm four hours into the week and 15% of my weekly limit is already used up, just by coding? OpenClaw can't use 600% of my weekly limits.

Without data, this is just a bunk excuse to defend the walled garden practices. With data, it's an engineering target. They could just 429 badly behaved clients.

They already 429 everyone! That's the crazy thing. They already have strict limits that we all keep hitting regularly.

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Speaking only personally of course, I'm completely over the chat idiom in almost every way. Where is all this future demand coming from? By the time Android lands a God mode ultimate voice assistant it's pretty much guaranteed I will be well beyond the point where I'd want to use it. The whole thing is starting to remind me of 3G video calling where the networks thought it'd change everything, and by the end of it wi…

I don't understand this perspective. I can't imaging a point where I won't want to ask "what's the weather like?" "please turn off the lights" "what is the airspeed of an unladen swallow?" likewise chatting through directing it to build something or solve a problem, voice or typing will each have their place. And video calling did take off, plenty of people use facetime and almost everybody working in an office uses…

> I can't imaging a point where I won't want to ask "what's the weather like?" "please turn off the lights"

To help with understanding that perspective, I cannot imagine a scenario where I would ask a device connected to the internet to turn off the lights. I literally never wanted this. A physical switch is a 100% non negotiable for me. I feel the same way about non-mechanical car doors.

Perhaps due to that outlook I was always puzzled about the entire idea of an "assistant". It's interesting for me to see, that there are people out there who actually want that "assistant".

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

#274

Is anyone even getting anything out of a $20/mo sub for Anthropic? I'm doing a side-by-side with GPT-5.4 for $20/mo and Sonnet for $20/mo and I can tell you that all my 5 hour tokens are eaten in 30 minutes with Claude. I still haven't used my tokens for OpenAI. Code quality seems fine on both. Building an app in Go

Yes, 20/mo is worth the price for me. Just don't run Opus by default for everything

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

#275
To give credit where it is due: Boris actually submitted a few PRs this week to OpenClaw to increase prompt cache hits. You can see them here: https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/pullsq=is%3Apr+author%3...

I think the usage patterns of a lot of harnesses are pushing against their planned capacity. I would say they can certainly explain themselves a lot better.

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Contempt for users is not silly when the CEO of said company has repeatedly claimed they will replace SWEs "end-to-end" by next year. I'm not sure what to say. You're either listening to the actions of these companies, or you're not in a place where you feel the need to be concerned be their actions. I'm in a place where I'm concerned by their actions, and the impact that their claims and behavior have on the working…

At no point in the last 10,000 years of human civilization has there not been a developing technology that threatened to forever reshape and displace a class of labor. Or are you also upset about the modern plight of the telephone operator, farrier, or coal miner?

I see -- and AI is just like all technologies that came before it ...

It is not a class of labor ... it is all digital labor. Do you or do you not understand this?

It is digital knowledge itself, and then all communication labor, and then all physical labor with robotics.

Is this clear to you?

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

#279

So now what happens to startups and ADE's orientated around Claude like Conductor.. no more Claude for them I guess back to Codex!

Nothing. They aren't using third party harnesses, which is the issue here as spelled out in the post. > you’ll no longer be able to use your Claude subscription limits for third-party harnesses including OpenClaw. My understanding is that Conductor and others aren't using it.

I'm not sure. The docs on claude -p are sort of ambiguous on third party usage

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

#280
The main reason I find myself using Opus is because it's a better communicator. (Yes, I know it's better in some areas like frontend vs. others but this is not significant enough for my purposes.)

So this change has actually forced a reckoning of sorts. Maybe the best option is to outsource the thinking to another model, and then send it back to Opus to package up.

Ironically this is how the non-agent works too to an extent.

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