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F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #246
jmyeet wrote: post #214

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There are 4 players in this war and they all have very different goals and "victory" conditions. 1. Israel wants to ruin Iran permanently, to turn it into Somalia 2.0, meaning a quasi-state with no organized, central government. Were they to succeed in this it would be a humantarian disaster the likes of which we haven't seen since probably WW2. Tens of millions of refugees that will probably collapse surrounding cou…

You forgot the 5th actor - Russia - which is benefiting hugely from the collapse of NATO, the loosening of oil sanctions, the huge hike in oil prices, and the way the US was persuaded to expend a ridiculous percentage of its conventional missile stockpiles on a pointless project. Ukraine is doing its best to minimise Russian oil exports, and that's certainly having an effect. But strategically, Russia is a huge benef…

I agree with most of this, but: The collapse of NATO is not yet in evidence.

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Post by Ms-J »

ericd wrote: post #450
bijowo1676 wrote: post #357

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a single AN/FPS-132 radar costs $1.1 bln, not $500m. And Iran stuck 17 of the CENCCOM sites hosting radars of all kinds across Qarar, Bahrain, Iraq, UAE, Saudi, Jordan, Israel, etc). Total cost is so much bigger, it is staggering. The whole CENTCOM is blind basically, as well as Iron Dome which relied on these radars - all blind now, in addition to long-range early nuke detection to protect CONUS is also blind. in ad…

Fact check on this brand new account?

If you spend a moment to verify the info that is the fact check.

No one can do the thinking for you.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by chithanh »

bijowo1676 wrote: post #369
stackghost wrote: post #217

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The A-10 carries AGM 88 anti-radiation missiles, and while it's a slow aircraft it can still passably perform SEAD with the AGM 88.

Geran-2 (which is Russian licenced Shahed drone) also carries air-to-air missile, so sending slow archaic manned airframe is just suicide mission (aka shaheed) https://militarnyi.com/en/news/russia-used-shahed-drone-arme...

That is not a Shahed drone, that is a Geran-2 drone. Which is similar from the outside but not the same. Also Iran doesn't have stock of R-60s I think.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by overfeed »

eddieh wrote: post #237
pram wrote: post #160

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TBH I went through SERE school (aircrew) and I questioned its value, since the training is in eastern Washington/northern Idaho area mountainous woodland environment and all the evasion they showed us relied on that kind of cover and "bushcraft" And you know, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Iran are definitely not eastern Washington lol

Iran isn't just central Tehran. Look up the Zagros Mountains and the Alborz Mountains. Or just look at a picture of the northern Tehran skyline, it is at the foot of the Alborz, a huge mountain range. There's plenty of woodlands and forest too. Some parts of the Hyrcanian forests get over 50 inches of annual rainfall, which isn't Forks, WA, but it is substantial.

You're reinforcing parents point by highlighting the variety: at most, just 1 of the areas is a close match to the terrain at the training grounds.

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Post by krferriter »

losvedir wrote: post #449
soupfordummies wrote: post #348

At what point is congress gonna grow a spine and retake their power? Every day the goalposts just get moved a little farther.

I think they have 60 days from when hostilities begin, right?

No. This war has been illegal from day one. The 60 window without prior authorization only applies if the US is attacked. The US was not attacked.

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Post by AdrianB1 »

gpderetta wrote: post #206
fooey wrote: post #180

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New reporting that an A-10 ~was also shot down~ has also gone down (unconfirmed if it was shot down) https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/04/03/world/iran-war-trump... > A second Air Force combat plane crashed in the Persian Gulf region on Friday, and the lone pilot was safely rescued, according to two U.S. officials who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss operational matters. The A-10 Warthog attack plane went d…

What are A-10s doing there? There isn't yet any ground operation, right?

Cheaper to operate than any fighter, longer endurance, good for patrolling over the Strait. Filling the gap between helicopters and fighters with a big, but cheap cannon.
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