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F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by YZF »

fooey wrote: post #180
roadbuster wrote: post #116

During the entire gulf war (Iraq, 1990-91), only two F-15s were shot down via surface-to-air engagement. At the time, Baghdad was known to have the highest density of SAM protection out of any city in the world. An F-15 being shot down in Iran after weeks of strategic bombing of their anti-air defense systems is not a good sign.

New reporting that an A-10 ~was also shot down~ has also gone down (unconfirmed if it was shot down) https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/04/03/world/iran-war-trump... > A second Air Force combat plane crashed in the Persian Gulf region on Friday, and the lone pilot was safely rescued, according to two U.S. officials who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss operational matters. The A-10 Warthog attack plane went d…

Your link and your quote does not say the A-10 was shot down though.

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Post by RobotToaster »

ks2048 wrote: post #163
tokai wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Prisoner of war, not hostage. edit: I'm baffled by the amount of downvotes pointing out the objectively correct terminology can get. Its not a matter of opinion, military personnel captured by the enemy are pow no matter their treatment. A hostage, by definition, has been abducted.

Not a Prisoner of War - a Prisoner of a limited military excursion.

Prisoner of a three day military operation.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by nutjob2 »

praptak wrote: post #218
nutjob2 wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It'll probably come in the form of permanent $5+/gal gas.

Oil is still underpriced wrt to its environmental cost. It is good to see at least the political cost being accounted for.

From my point of view, this incredibly stupid war has only positive externalities. The costs of oil are legion and unaccounted.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by hackable_sand »

vbarrielle wrote: post #82
webstrand wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, you mean Empire Earth. I loved that game, it had a great soundtrack.

Sounds like it indeed. The balance was... interesting, a single tank could not win against a dozen cavemen.

I don't see how a single tank could win against 12 cavemen, but I digress. It's a video game.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by eddieh »

pram wrote: post #160
MarkMarine wrote: post #21

Military aviators train for this, being alone behind enemy lines (look up SERE school if you’re curious, one of the craziest training courses outside of special forces) and there is a special force just for aviator recovery behind enemy lines, US AirForce Pararescue. Hopefully they’ll get the aviators back quickly, the last thing our country needs is American hostages making this ridiculous war harder to stop.

TBH I went through SERE school (aircrew) and I questioned its value, since the training is in eastern Washington/northern Idaho area mountainous woodland environment and all the evasion they showed us relied on that kind of cover and "bushcraft" And you know, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Iran are definitely not eastern Washington lol

Iran isn't just central Tehran. Look up the Zagros Mountains and the Alborz Mountains. Or just look at a picture of the northern Tehran skyline, it is at the foot of the Alborz, a huge mountain range. There's plenty of woodlands and forest too. Some parts of the Hyrcanian forests get over 50 inches of annual rainfall, which isn't Forks, WA, but it is substantial.

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Post by cjbgkagh »

ericmay wrote: post #220
cjbgkagh wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m reading one of those Blackhawks was shot down. An A-10, F-16, and a refueling plane, in addition to the F-15 so far today. Which, if true, is not a good sign.

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We must be using different definitions for ‘complete’. I think Iran is using loitering anti-air missiles with IR seeking which seems to be effective. Maybe this sudden spike is reflective of receiving new equipment from China.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by andriy_koval »

roadbuster wrote: post #116

During the entire gulf war (Iraq, 1990-91), only two F-15s were shot down via surface-to-air engagement. At the time, Baghdad was known to have the highest density of SAM protection out of any city in the world. An F-15 being shot down in Iran after weeks of strategic bombing of their anti-air defense systems is not a good sign.

> During the entire gulf war (Iraq, 1990-91), only two F-15s were shot down via surface-to-air engagement.

was it because F-15 was used as superiority fighter at that time and now they use it as heavy bomber? I assume plenty of bombers likely was shot down in Iraq.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by burnt-resistor »

pram wrote: post #160
MarkMarine wrote: post #21

Military aviators train for this, being alone behind enemy lines (look up SERE school if you’re curious, one of the craziest training courses outside of special forces) and there is a special force just for aviator recovery behind enemy lines, US AirForce Pararescue. Hopefully they’ll get the aviators back quickly, the last thing our country needs is American hostages making this ridiculous war harder to stop.

TBH I went through SERE school (aircrew) and I questioned its value, since the training is in eastern Washington/northern Idaho area mountainous woodland environment and all the evasion they showed us relied on that kind of cover and "bushcraft" And you know, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Iran are definitely not eastern Washington lol

Sounds like typical one-sized-fits-all, checkbox military nonsense. Perhaps there are better and/or climate-specific SERE courses in one or more services? Because if it's ineffective, it's a waste of time and money more so than usual and puts expensive-to-replace personnel at risk.

Seems like it's all about vacating the area and busting out the CSEL (or NGSR when materialized) personal SAR comms is the best way out, or it may well turn into a weeks(s) long, nonstop spy-shit ordeal getting out. Perhaps some forethought and packing with knowledge and specific local-appropriate items (and chunk of cash) would help more than MIL-STD Walmart camping aisle prepper bullshit.

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