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Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by tgv »

bigyabai wrote: post #256
nomel wrote: post #249

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Sure, if you run software from strangers on the internet, while explicitly giving them access to your systems, bad things can happen. But SIP is definitely a net good that makes many things directly impossible. Do you have a system in mind that prevents the user from doing this?

> Do you have a system in mind that prevents the user from doing this? Sure, macOS could adopt an iPad-style security system that refuses to run all software outside the App Store. It works on iPhone and iPad just fine, all the prosumers love it. It's not like native darwin triples are a popular compilation target. There wouldn't be any vast tragedy if the macOS shellutil authors were told to use zsh in a VM instead,…

macOS does precisely that out of the box, doesn't it? You have to change some settings to run other software. I've got it set to: allow notarized, warn for internet downloads (even if notarized), everything else after explicit permission.

Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by search_facility »

DeathArrow wrote: post #280

At some point in time, Apple used nice software to be able to sell expensive but mediocre hardware. Now they sell expensive but nice hardware and they have mediocre software. It seems you can only choose one out of three, nice hardware, nice software, good price. Apple is always choosing high price, and they either gave customers nice hardware or nice software, but not both.

Well, this is a business model, not a coincidence... They are in the battle of selling fresh hardware each and every year consistenly

Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by markdown »

zdragnar wrote: post #253
JSR_FDED wrote: post #248

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Don't be a child

Vulgarity aside, I can sympathize. For years I've been told by designers that discoverability and intuitive interacting patterns are so important, yet every aspect of modern design focuses so much on minimizing "distractions" that features go undiscovered. We get forced into suboptimal workflows and usage patterns because everything gets over-fitted to the lowest common denominator. This is the biggest reason I love…

This, exactly.

Every MacOS app has a menu item explicitly made for this exact thing. It's often the third item in the menu:

    File    Edit   View
But they refuse to put these viewing options under the View menu item. Why? Why would you not put these really great viewing options under View?

Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by stingraycharles »

amarant wrote: post #27
intrasight wrote: post #22

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I disagree as it shows a fundamental flaw in terms of separation of concerns that's probably manifest throughout the operating system. Or to stay it another way, if we see shit like this then we know the whole thing is a hack.

Hmm, that's a good point actually! Hadn't considered that!

It’s like the famous artist putting a clause in a contract that they wanted bowls of M&Ms with the blue ones removed.

Not because they necessarily cared, but because it functions as an easy-to-verify proxy for whether the venue actually read the contract.

Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by jodleif »

classified wrote: post #263
girvo wrote: post #224

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The fact microsoft keeps messing up my Windows 11 gaming desktop, I think you're right.

Gaming is one more area where Linux has surpassed Windows. I'm using Valve's Proton to run Windows games on Linux and it's smooth as butter.

Yes, except for the odd anti-cheat that needs kernel level access

Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by jbverschoor »

AceJohnny2 wrote: post #93
zackmorris wrote: post #89

Not to mention that WindowServer seems to take 100+% cpu since the upgrade. Also I can't paste filenames in the save file dialog in some apps. And the URL field in Safari is just weird. My computer was running so slowly that I had to minimize transparency in system preferences somewhere. I think I also turned off opening every app in its own space. And I hid the icons on the Desktop in Finder settings somehow, which…

> Not to mention that WindowServer seems to take 100+% cpu since the upgrade That's because some app is spamming window updates. It's been an ongoing problem for many releases. AFAICT, WindowServer 100% CPU is a symptom, not a cause.

Symptoms with no way to understand why.

If Apple would give insight about this, the developers wold get bug reports and complaints

Similar to the electron shit

Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by jbverschoor »

mlyle wrote: post #269
root_axis wrote: post #262

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> Computers have been running thousands of times slower than they should be for decades I've been hearing this complaint for decades and I'll never understand it. The suggestion seems completely at odds with my own experience. Regardless of OS, they all seem extremely fast, and feel faster and faster as time goes on. I remember a time when I could visually see the screen repaint after minimizing a window, or waiting…

My M4 Max 128GB ... 90% of the time is like you say. 10% of the time, Windowserver takes off and spends 150% CPU. Or I develop keystroke lag. Or I can't get a terminal open because Time Machine has the backup volume in the half mounted state. It's thousands of times faster than the Ultra 1 that was once on my desk. And I can certainly do workloads that fundamentally take thousands of times more cycles. But I usually…

Or contactsd lol

Spotlight doesn’t make sense either.. caches get evicted, but there’s no logic that prevents it from building it back up immediately

Log processes are fine, but they should never be able to use 100% / At the same priority (cpu+io)

Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by jbverschoor »

kalleboo wrote: post #276
zackmorris wrote: post #89

Not to mention that WindowServer seems to take 100+% cpu since the upgrade. Also I can't paste filenames in the save file dialog in some apps. And the URL field in Safari is just weird. My computer was running so slowly that I had to minimize transparency in system preferences somewhere. I think I also turned off opening every app in its own space. And I hid the icons on the Desktop in Finder settings somehow, which…

kernel_task using 100% is the system thermally throttling and the OS spamming NOPs to cool the CPU down

Any way to see that?

Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by hrmtst93837 »

_jab wrote: post #9

Between the rounded corners that don't reach the edges of the viewport, and the behavior when opening a new app for the first time, it feels like Mac's UI is optimized around the assumption most users won't expand windows to fill the whole screen, but rather leave them half-sized somewhere in the middle. Does anyone actually do this? Especially for heavy-duty applications like my web browser and IDE, this has always…

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