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AI got the blame for the Iran school bombing. The truth is more worrying
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Re: AI got the blame for the Iran school bombing. The truth is more worrying
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I feel very bad for the children and their relatives. What happened is really terrible. I wish there was the same level of rigour and energy applied to investigating the 40,000 deaths in early January. There are countless videos online. I simply don’t understand why 150 people receive so much attention while 40,000 don’t. This saddens me because it feels like the focus is on who was responsible rather than who lost t…
Nobody in the western world cares about either group of dead civilians. They only pretend to care because they think it might benefit their preferred tribe of politicians.
Re: AI got the blame for the Iran school bombing. The truth is more worrying
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> Hand wavy “that’s war for ya” nonsense isn’t appropriate for a serious discussion of ethics. I was responding to whether the "invasion" could have been accomplished without killing the kids. I dont think that's realistic. The separate question of whether it's worth it morally to topple the regime given kids will die I think is pretty simply yes. Iran's funding of terrorism kills and will continue to kill far more k…
Killing children in an unprovoked attack to stop somebody else from potentially killing children in the future doesn't seem like a moral take to me, even if "someone else" killed more in the past or will in the future. In particular, because it actually sends the message that it's ok to kill children as long as you get what you want in the end. Not a great precedent. Perhaps that is the root of where your utilitarian…
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First, this is completely untrue. Hamas and Hezbollah have been launching missiles at Israel literally nonstop for 20 years. The houithis have and will continue to launch missiles at US assets along the Bab al-Mandab Strait. All of these missiles came directly from the iranian regime. Those groups are an arm of the Iranian government Thats not the point though. There is no reason for either party to respond proportio…
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It is possible that two things are true 1. this was an intelligence failure and a tragic mistake. 2. Trump and Hegseth are (like) cartoon character villains.
There are no cartoon villains in general, that's the point GP is making by using the word "cartoon". Let's use some common sense, it's not like Trump and Hegseth got together and sneaked in the school on the list of targets just because they liked the idea of children being killed. It's naive to suggest this is a possibility worth considering.
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The Israeli state leaders is proudly declaring superiority of their people, the need for vital space (Lebensraum, the great Israel), segregating their own citizens, conducting pogroms, you have all the doctrine there. Go find out where this book played before and how it all ended up.
Re: AI got the blame for the Iran school bombing. The truth is more worrying
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How about you also ban the rest of the Christian/Jew-hating regalia that's on this thread? Or are you too woke for that?
Re: AI got the blame for the Iran school bombing. The truth is more worrying
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They've colonized the whole region with their proxies, from Lebanon to Yemen to Iraq, previously Syria which they attacked with Hezbollah to support the Russia-backed Assad. About 1 million dead people from all this proxy warfare. Lebanon in particular wants to be a normal liberal democracy but their proxy militia assassinates any politician who stands in their way.
How many dead from the US's proxy wars?
Re: AI got the blame for the Iran school bombing. The truth is more worrying
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I recommend looking closely at the New York Times analysis. There were factors that might have mitigated this as a strike target, but it also really did look like a part of the compound (and it originally was!). Yes, with hindsight, we can definitively know, and with sufficient time each target could probably have been positively ID'd, but there was precisely one mis-strike in 1000s of sorties, so this already is a l…
So I read the entire TFA, where do you see “quotes [from] those in the know who believe this should have been eliminated as a target”? I saw no such quotes about the school in TFA. Maybe I missed it. > there was precisely one mis-strike in 1000s of sorties How did you verify this? Because I’ll remind you, the U.S. administration denied responsibility for some time before owning up to this due to public pressure. Abse…
TFA is from The Guardian while GP you responded to specifically called out the NYT analysis. These are different things. Maybe reading the GP's suggested source would leave you with a different set of questions?
Re: AI got the blame for the Iran school bombing. The truth is more worrying
#290A similar situation happened a few weeks ago when the US/Israel started targeting Iranian police facilities. They bombed a public park in Tehran called "Police Park" because it has the name "Police" in it. It's a normal park. https://x.com/clashreport/status/2029574288253026510 https://x.com/tparsi/status/2029555364262228454 If you asked AI to "list the top 100 police facilities in Tehran", this location would appear…