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End of "Chat Control": EU parliament stops mass surveillance

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Re: End of "Chat Control": EU parliament stops mass surveillance

#41

I’m confused by > This means on April 6, 2026, Gmail, LinkedIn, Microsoft and other Big Techs must stop scanning your private messages in the EU It had already passed and started?

Yes, voluntary Chat Control 1.0 has been running since 2021.

Re: End of "Chat Control": EU parliament stops mass surveillance

#44

Just rename it to something something save the children something something. Instant approval no matter what is in the bill.

It's already called "Extension of the temporary derogation from the ePrivacy Directive to combat online child sexual abuse".

Re: End of "Chat Control": EU parliament stops mass surveillance

#45
post #22

Its time to start trying to push Chat Control 2.0. With enough money and infinite retries eventually all the bad regulations with a power group behind will end being approved.

Or it will get a new name. Just like „Chat Control“ is far from the first name for this BS.

we can learn from our American friends and call it something like CHILDREN SAFETY ACT. So you want to hurt children, huh? I hope not

Re: End of "Chat Control": EU parliament stops mass surveillance

#46

I would say "end of chat control, for now"

Those guys only ever have a "maybe later" button.

That's pretty much how it works; there's generally no way, in a modern parliamentary democracy to say "no, and also you can never discuss it again". You could put it in the constitution, but honestly there's a decent argument that parts of chat control would violate the EU's can't-believe-it's-not-a-constitution (the Lisbon Treaty is essentially a constitution, but is not referred to as such because it annoys nationalists) in any case and ultimately be struck down by the ECJ, like the Data Retention Directive was.

Re: End of "Chat Control": EU parliament stops mass surveillance

#47
post #22

Its time to start trying to push Chat Control 2.0. With enough money and infinite retries eventually all the bad regulations with a power group behind will end being approved.

Or it will get a new name. Just like „Chat Control“ is far from the first name for this BS.

Sweep it under ProtectEU.

> The European Commission wants a backdoor for end-to-end encryptions for law enforcement

https://www.techradar.com/pro/security/the-european-commissi...

Re: End of "Chat Control": EU parliament stops mass surveillance

#49

This will come back because too many EU countries want it.

Judging by https://howtheyvote.eu/votes/189270, the outliers who seem to want this, would be France, Hungary, Poland and Ireland, all other countries seems to had the majority MEPs voting against it.

Re: End of "Chat Control": EU parliament stops mass surveillance

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note that European parliament parties aren't particularly cohesive; some EPP members voted against it.

> some EPP members voted against it 20 out of 184

Do I understand the voting / results wrong? Looking at this: https://howtheyvote.eu/votes/189270

The measure voted on is "Extension [of Chat Control 1.0]", it was voted 36% "for" and 49% "against" (so result is "against"), and looking at "Political groups", majority of EPP MEPs voted "against" (137 out of 164 votes).

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