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Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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Post by ekianjo »

dahcryn wrote: post #72
mschild wrote: post #27

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I find Teams is often simply picked because of cost reasons. A lot of companies are paying for office and teams comes bundled with it. Why pay extra when its included?

yeah I don't understand how this isn't blatant market abuse through their monopoly position Regulators should be all over it. EU has tried, but unsuccesfully, since it was lawyers who came up with the mitigation.

Regulators are either sleeping on billions of lobby money or asleep at the wheel

Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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Post by [deleted] »

Ranxer wrote: post #104
jeppester wrote: post #51

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The only way this get better is if the user gets to choose between an OS with ads, lock-in, telemetry etc. and then one with none of that. As it is now, buying a laptop in a store is a "pick your poison" situation.

Better yet: don't pick any poison at all -- both System76 and Tuxedo Computers (as examples, sometimes you can buy a latop without an OS and save the money, same goes for PCs) offer laptops with Linux installed: no Microslop tax, and hardware that's guaranteed to work with OSS.

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Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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Post by anthonylevine »

general1465 wrote: post #102
mexicocitinluez wrote: post #42

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Blaming React is absurd. Its like blaming the screwdriver instead of the person using it.

Blaming React is correct. It is like asking for a picture on a wall and instead getting noisy, power hungry plasma TV on a wall.

This metaphor is so stupidly bad it's hard to believe you guys even know what React is.

Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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Post by Mashimo »

no_shadowban_3 wrote: post #2

These flowers smell like shit. If you don't use Linux or MacOS yet, why?

I used linux on Desktop 15 years ago, tried it once in a while every few years. But there was always something. Often video driver, tearing, hardware video decoding, or a specific game that I played a lot. And now it would be that my DJ software does not run on it.

Still use it on my server though.

I might try a MacBook air at some point, but they are quite expensive when you need 1TB disk for your music files. But for now my ThinkPad T14 Gen1 still runs fine. I don't need more battery or power. No fan could be cool.

Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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Post by craftkiller »

9dev wrote: post #56
hnthrow0287345 wrote: post #50

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You can easily defend that for only 6k with 'but we like it and we'll be more productive with it and we won't hate our jobs'

yeah, but that wouldn't be honest. Slack is more pleasant to use, but not 6k more pleasant to use. I'd rather put up with Teams and get my devs a raise instead.

How few devs do you have? Assuming a small startup of 12, you'd be able to give each dev a raise of $42 per month. Your devs would have to be severely underpaid to notice a $42/month raise.

Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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Post by pharrington »

Desktop and laptop sellers need to end their abusive business relationship with Microsoft, and start selling systems with a Linux distribution. They'll save costs while selling a better product. People who know they need Windows will always have the option to install it themselves.

Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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Post by account42 »

mexicocitinluez wrote: post #42
dude250711 wrote: post #21

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I think managers were promoted for infecting their features with Copilot, and developers for infecting them with React, and here we are. OneDrive managers on the other hand are one step away from inventing some way of adding a gacha mechanic.

Blaming React is absurd. Its like blaming the screwdriver instead of the person using it.

We can blame both. If my repair bill was higher because the mechanic chose to use a ridiculous electric screwdriver that used tons of power to achieve what a normal screwdriver can and stripped the screws in the process then I'd also be upset with both the mechanic and the ridiculously inefficient tool.

Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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Post by anthonylevine »

edgyquant wrote: post #109
mexicocitinluez wrote: post #88

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"developers with infecting then with React" is 100% blaming React

No it’s directly putting the blame on developers

"I'm on HN and whenever I see React mentioned I'm constitutionally incapable of not saying something dumb"

Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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Post by alexb_ »

Ranxer wrote: post #104
jeppester wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only way this get better is if the user gets to choose between an OS with ads, lock-in, telemetry etc. and then one with none of that. As it is now, buying a laptop in a store is a "pick your poison" situation.

Better yet: don't pick any poison at all -- both System76 and Tuxedo Computers (as examples, sometimes you can buy a latop without an OS and save the money, same goes for PCs) offer laptops with Linux installed: no Microslop tax, and hardware that's guaranteed to work with OSS.

Most people want a computer that works with their software. No, "learn the FOSS version" is not a solution. Especially because nearly everyone has some niche thing they like, some 5% that isn't covered by the FOSS solutions, that only a niche Windows program can actually do correctly.

And that doesn't even get into gaming.

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