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Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by dwedge »

> For various reasons

Because it's trending. Likely the same reason they ended up outside the EU in the first place.

I find this to be a non article. They moved from Google to Google and Apple, installed Graphene but installed the play store for a "significant number of apps", and didn't even consider self hosting email or git.

I've probably seen a dozen of these articles now, not to mention posts on LinkedIn, and it's a shame that there is almost never any real substance to them because on the surface it's an interesting thought experiment

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by wolvoleo »

darthcloud wrote: post #213

As a Canadian, I’ve been thinking since last year about migrating to non-US services and applications. My main goal is simply to avoid giving money or data directly to US corporations. I have no illusions, these non-US services probably still benefit US companies in some ways. They’re rare, but I’ve consciously decided to stay away from some Canadian alternatives. The main customers of most Canadian tech companies ar…

Yeah I was thinking of getting infomaniak for my mail. I don't really care for the encryption thing of proton (all email comes in in plain text anyway!) and I want to just be able to do plain imap without bridges.

But their stuff just feels a bit weird somehow. I didn't really want to commit yet. I'm glad to hear you had good experiences.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by femiagbabiaka »

avazhi wrote: post #223
darthcloud wrote: post #213

As a Canadian, I’ve been thinking since last year about migrating to non-US services and applications. My main goal is simply to avoid giving money or data directly to US corporations. I have no illusions, these non-US services probably still benefit US companies in some ways. They’re rare, but I’ve consciously decided to stay away from some Canadian alternatives. The main customers of most Canadian tech companies ar…

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If we stay on the current path, in a few months tech will start to feel the pain of Trump's rampage. The only redeemable thing about that is that maybe tech workers and Americans generally will finally stop feeling like they're above it all.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by _osud »

surgical_fire wrote: post #226
copper4eva wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

His comment did not even mention the US. Only critiquing the authoritarianism going on in the EU. One of the issues with modern politics is everyone wants to deflect.

The comment does not exist in a vacuum. It exists in a thread where the topic is, eminently, migrating away from US services to EU ones.

>The comment does not exist in a vacuum. It exists in a thread where the topic is, eminently, migrating away from US services to EU ones.

Even then, there's no interesting conversation to be had unless we pretend it does.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by krzyk »

aleph_minus_one wrote: post #145
s_dev wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>How comfortable are you guys with the fact that EU countries allow prosecutors and sometimes even police officers to issue their own search warrants without meaningful judicial review? This is a hilarious 'just asking questions' concern that doesn't address the complete 180 in direction the US is taking and descending in to authoritarianism while moving against the world order it primarily helped build post WWII whi…

> the complete 180 in direction the US is taking and descending in to authoritarianism A similar (though currently a little bit less marked) trend can also be observed for the EU and EU countries.

Trends are various. You had Poland remove rightwing goverment 2 years ago (yes and elect righwing president few months ago). Romania electing a European centric president.

We can go on. EU is not a single country, not a single community of people.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by surgical_fire »

_osud wrote: post #230
surgical_fire wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That's fair, but I think it's a mistake I obviously don't share the sentiment. > village cop in another country the authority to conduct extremely intrusive surveillance on you. > far more realistic threat for most people than the NSA. If you think some policeman in a rural Frech village is a bigger threat to your freedom than NSA or other 3-letter agencies from the USA, we can all see who is mistaken in evaluating…

>If you think some policeman in a rural Frech village is a bigger threat to your freedom than NSA or other 3-letter agencies from the USA, we can all see who is mistaken in evaluating threats. Just like the random mugger on the streets of Paris is a far bigger threat to my life and limb than the US with their drones. You're talking from an ideological perspective, I'm looking at this from a rather more practical angl…

> You're talking from an ideological perspective

Given your participation in this whole discussion, that was pretty cute.

There nothing else here even worth addressing. This conversation is a waste of time, for both of us.

Have a wonderful rest of your day.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by foldr »

_osud wrote: post #186
icoder wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I think this basically answers this entire sub-thread

Hungary can send an EIO to France or Germany, and the consistent trend has been to reduce the ability of executing states to review these requests.

There’s a concerning trend of EIOs issued by Hungary being enforced in France and Germany? What would be an example of this?

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by tpetry »

layer8 wrote: post #121
dinowars wrote: post #88

> First, I tried mailbox.org, which I can generally recommend without reservation. Unfortunately, you can’t send emails from any address on your own domain without a workaround I use mailbox for a long time, one account for 2.50EUR/month with multiple custom domains and I can send emails from any address. To send from a different address the process didn't really seem different than other providers. From Thunderbird…

My understanding is that the number of such sender aliases is limited, at most 50 or 250, depending on the plan. There are ways to use a custom domain for sending where you end up using a larger number of localparts fairly quickly, and it would be a hassle to have to manage them, instead of just typing whatever sender you want (or on replies, having the email client automatically use the address from the original ema…

When you have a custom domain you can list @mydomain.com as sending domain allowing you every string before the at character. So that means you could use 50 different domains with infinite adresses on these domains.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by dwedge »

wongarsu wrote: post #220
copper4eva wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

His comment did not even mention the US. Only critiquing the authoritarianism going on in the EU. One of the issues with modern politics is everyone wants to deflect.

I need to host my emails somewhere. This means that you can't reject the EU in isolation, you have to compare it to the alternatives. And the most prevalent alternative is the US Now of course if somebody has a better alternative that's neither in the EU nor US (nor Russia, or China) that'd be interesting to hear about

Anywhere you can rent a VPS or dedicated server, install exim or mox or mailcow. Configure dns correctly and you're good to go

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by otherme123 »

avazhi wrote: post #223
darthcloud wrote: post #213

As a Canadian, I’ve been thinking since last year about migrating to non-US services and applications. My main goal is simply to avoid giving money or data directly to US corporations. I have no illusions, these non-US services probably still benefit US companies in some ways. They’re rare, but I’ve consciously decided to stay away from some Canadian alternatives. The main customers of most Canadian tech companies ar…

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Proton AG, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_AG, a Swiss company, owned privately by the Proton Foundation https://proton.me/foundation, is US-controlled? How?
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