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Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by ekianjo »

darthcloud wrote: post #213

As a Canadian, I’ve been thinking since last year about migrating to non-US services and applications. My main goal is simply to avoid giving money or data directly to US corporations. I have no illusions, these non-US services probably still benefit US companies in some ways. They’re rare, but I’ve consciously decided to stay away from some Canadian alternatives. The main customers of most Canadian tech companies ar…

> Next, I’m thinking of moving away from Google Photos. I’m considering pCloud for that.

Maybe try Immich?

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by Aurornis »

s_dev wrote: post #222
aleph_minus_one wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the complete 180 in direction the US is taking and descending in to authoritarianism A similar (though currently a little bit less marked) trend can also be observed for the EU and EU countries.

>(though currently a little bit less marked) Again this is a false equivalence, 'a little less marked' isn't close to imparting the true state of things and to be honest a little disingenuous. The EU is not in full motion to dismantle democracy across her 27 states. The US should it not turn this around in the midterms is finished as a liberal democracy. So 'ah yes but Hungary' doesn't persuade me even though I'll co…

> The US should it not turn this around in the midterms is finished as a liberal democracy.

I wish there was an easy way for me to bet against the imminent fall of the United States as predicted by so many internet commenters. I don’t like what the current administration is doing, either, but I would readily bet against all of these “the end is just around the corner” or “the empire is dying” takes in a heartbeat.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by generic92034 »

_osud wrote: post #224
generic92034 wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A judge of a secret court, which are known to never deny any request?

This is simply not correct. Very few "cops" in the US can go to any kind of secret courts. Also, what you're describing is still infinitely better than the European system! The cops get to issue the warrants themselves.

With any number of intelligence services in the USA I would not really be calmed by the prospect that an ordinary cop cannot do that.

What you are claiming about European cops is also not uniformly true. A German police officer cannot "just" self-issue a search warrant.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by Besticle »

darthcloud wrote: post #213

As a Canadian, I’ve been thinking since last year about migrating to non-US services and applications. My main goal is simply to avoid giving money or data directly to US corporations. I have no illusions, these non-US services probably still benefit US companies in some ways. They’re rare, but I’ve consciously decided to stay away from some Canadian alternatives. The main customers of most Canadian tech companies ar…

If you're going through all that effort why not migrate to open-source/self-hosted?

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by akvadrako »

dinowars wrote: post #88

> First, I tried mailbox.org, which I can generally recommend without reservation. Unfortunately, you can’t send emails from any address on your own domain without a workaround I use mailbox for a long time, one account for 2.50EUR/month with multiple custom domains and I can send emails from any address. To send from a different address the process didn't really seem different than other providers. From Thunderbird…

I use mailbox for the past few years and I think it's the best option out there. But they have one major issue, which is that anyone can impersonate your domain:

https://userforum-en.mailbox.org/topic/anti-spoofing-for-cus...

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by QuadmasterXLII »

avazhi wrote: post #223
darthcloud wrote: post #213

As a Canadian, I’ve been thinking since last year about migrating to non-US services and applications. My main goal is simply to avoid giving money or data directly to US corporations. I have no illusions, these non-US services probably still benefit US companies in some ways. They’re rare, but I’ve consciously decided to stay away from some Canadian alternatives. The main customers of most Canadian tech companies ar…

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There are words and concepts that cut reality at the seams, and others that feel good and make you dumb as rocks. Virtue signaling came out the gate strong but has fallen solidly i to the second camp.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by rglullis »

wongarsu wrote: post #220
copper4eva wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

His comment did not even mention the US. Only critiquing the authoritarianism going on in the EU. One of the issues with modern politics is everyone wants to deflect.

I need to host my emails somewhere. This means that you can't reject the EU in isolation, you have to compare it to the alternatives. And the most prevalent alternative is the US Now of course if somebody has a better alternative that's neither in the EU nor US (nor Russia, or China) that'd be interesting to hear about

Switzerland, maybe? I've been a happy migadu.com customer for years already.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by krzyk »

copper4eva wrote: post #208
s_dev wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>How comfortable are you guys with the fact that EU countries allow prosecutors and sometimes even police officers to issue their own search warrants without meaningful judicial review? This is a hilarious 'just asking questions' concern that doesn't address the complete 180 in direction the US is taking and descending in to authoritarianism while moving against the world order it primarily helped build post WWII whi…

His comment did not even mention the US. Only critiquing the authoritarianism going on in the EU. One of the issues with modern politics is everyone wants to deflect.

> critiquing the authoritarianism going on in the EU

What?

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by antievropean »

9dev wrote: post #161
aborsy wrote: post #153

Some of these European countries such as France are quite authoritarian. They frequently pass (update: propose/push for) laws to ban VPN and even social media, request access to private messages, etc. It seems to me the situation is equally bad in EU.

You have no idea what you are talking about, really. We don’t "frequently" pass such laws. Nobody is accessing private messages, even if there have been such attempts. The EU has still the strongest privacy laws world wide, and in contrast to others a strong ethical foundation. It may be slow, it may be torn, it may be overly beaurocratic, but sure enough not authoritarian.

Two words: chat control

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by gradus_ad »

alexejb wrote: post #183
gradus_ad wrote: post #169

The EU is going to fail in the next decade or two. It is a financially and politically unsustainable patchwork that will rip apart in the great power conflict that is coming. The sick man of Europe is now Europe itself.

Assuming your assessment is correct, how do you think this will affect the digital sector?

Capital flows to where it enjoys the greatest returns. That is not Europe, not now nor in any foreseeable future. There is no reason for a skilled professional interested in making money to go there.
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