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Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by atoav »

One tip in the EU is to consider just renting a Hetzner Storage Share. This is a 1TB (or more) Nextcloud that Hetzner manages for you for 5.11 Euros per month.

A Nextcloud can give you many things at once, file syncing, file shares, contact syncing, calendar syncing, etc.

I have been using this for years now after having hosted my own Nextcloud instance. The space and performance they give you for that price is unbeatable with nearly no downsides. The one downside is that you can't just ssh into the server, but you can even run occ managment commands via their web interface. It is an absolute no-brainer.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by ralferoo »

sobiolite wrote: post #5

I’m not with I could ever migrate away from Gmail, even if I wanted to. I have so many accounts and services linked to it.

Nowadays, I primarily only use gmail because the mail client is good on Android. But all my accounts have been self-hosted for years now and gmail just reads them via POP3 (never managed to get it happy with IMAP for some reason) and sends via my own SMTP.

Can anyone recommend actually decent and free Android (and also web) mail clients for self-hosted use? Everything I've tried so far (but to be fair, it was a few years ago when I last checked) just felt clunky compared to gmail, so I've ended up sticking with it as a client far longer than I probably should.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by lynx97 »

I find it pretty ironical that people seem to want to move to Von der Leyens vision of the future. As a EU citizen, my trust in what recently has been going down is almost non-existant.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by input_sh »

_osud wrote: post #36
alpineman wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least there is still the rule of law and democracy in the EU

Is there really? Governments routinely go against the ECHR and the ECJ, and do nothing to rectify past violations when ruled against. On a national level, sure.

Considering who we're comparing it to when discussing this topic: absolutely. Not even a question.

Anyone claiming otherwise is delusional at best.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by deaux »

_osud wrote: post #18

How comfortable are you guys with the fact that EU countries allow prosecutors and sometimes even police officers to issue their own search warrants without meaningful judicial review? Some EU courts will not exclude illegally obtained evidence either, so challenging the warrant later on will be pointless. Oh, and you might be in a reasonable EU country and still be hit with an EIO from one of the unreasonable countr…

This isn't a downside against EU services when compared to the US, so what are you actually suggesting? Don't just vaguely hint at stuff. Should we be moving to Singaporean services? Oh shit, similar concerns there. Okay, where do you suggest we move? If you don't have any suggestions then there's little substance behind what you're saying.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by lynx97 »

torben-friis wrote: post #22
lynx97 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Git is extremely easy to "self host". What makes things complicated are the web interfaces around code hosting, and all their supposedly important features. These days, Prs, issues, forums, wikis and all that seem to be synonymous with "git", which is pretty weird.

What do you mean by supposedly? The PR model is pretty much universal for a reason. I get why it is considered out of scope for core git, but it is by no means a weird fixation people have.

Just send me an email with your branches URL, and I will pull from it. Thats pretty much what a Pull Request is.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by p2detar »

I_am_tiberius wrote: post #3

Codeberg is only for FOSS projects. Is there some good European hosting provider for git? I really don't want to self host git.

I self-host Forgejo on a Docker container. Thinking about it, this is actually the right way to go.

If you got public projects, then something like Codeberg is in fact the place to go. If you got private projects, why push to someone's cloud-hosted git service at all? Push to your own service like Forgejo and sync backups to a local hard-drive or even online using rclone.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by _flux »

ptsneves wrote: post #19
lynx97 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Git is extremely easy to "self host". What makes things complicated are the web interfaces around code hosting, and all their supposedly important features. These days, Prs, issues, forums, wikis and all that seem to be synonymous with "git", which is pretty weird.

Which is ironic because PR is definitely alien to git. There is no such git concept as a PR, nor git pr command. Coming from a pure git workflow in mailing lists where branches, and commits(and associated diff and git am metadata) are the unit of work, I struggled to adapt into the PR concept in the beginning. I liked to work with gerrit, where the unit of the review is the commit. This also ensured a nice little his…

There are the commands git request-pull and git send-email to work with that workflow, though.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by _osud »

deaux wrote: post #45
_osud wrote: post #18

How comfortable are you guys with the fact that EU countries allow prosecutors and sometimes even police officers to issue their own search warrants without meaningful judicial review? Some EU courts will not exclude illegally obtained evidence either, so challenging the warrant later on will be pointless. Oh, and you might be in a reasonable EU country and still be hit with an EIO from one of the unreasonable countr…

This isn't a downside against EU services when compared to the US, so what are you actually suggesting? Don't just vaguely hint at stuff. Should we be moving to Singaporean services? Oh shit, similar concerns there. Okay, where do you suggest we move? If you don't have any suggestions then there's little substance behind what you're saying.

>This isn't a point against EU services compared to the US

In the US the cops actually need a search warrant signed by a judge. In the EU they only sometimes need one.

>Should we be moving to Singaporean services? Oh shit, similar concerns there

Really? I've always been under the impression that it is courts who issue search warrants in Singapore, not the police or prosecutors.

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