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Re: Migrating to the EU

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I'm also pretty much using 100% EU services except FastMail. Nothing against the Aussies, but I'd rather use something local, with servers within the EU. But I don't think there's anything as good as Fastmail this side of the pond, and I'm not prepared to compromise on this just yet. I might self-host email despite all the dangers the day FM decides to enshittify itself.

https://tuta.com/ and Protonmail

Re: Migrating to the EU

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I’m not with I could ever migrate away from Gmail, even if I wanted to. I have so many accounts and services linked to it.

It’s easier than you think when you stop trying to treat it as an all or nothing move and more of a gradual migration. Fastmail makes it really easy to keep the two in sync

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Codeberg is only for FOSS projects. Is there some good European hosting provider for git? I really don't want to self host git.

Regarding Forgejo [0] there are a number of other open providers listed on the delightful forgejo [1] curated list. In addition there is a Professional services repository [2] where services are listed in the issue tracker.

[0] https://forgejo.org

[1] https://delightful.coding.social/delightful-forgejo/#public-...

[2] https://codeberg.org/forgejo/professional-services/issues

Re: Migrating to the EU

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post #2

I'm also pretty much using 100% EU services except FastMail. Nothing against the Aussies, but I'd rather use something local, with servers within the EU. But I don't think there's anything as good as Fastmail this side of the pond, and I'm not prepared to compromise on this just yet. I might self-host email despite all the dangers the day FM decides to enshittify itself.

https://mailbox.org/

German e-mail service

Re: Migrating to the EU

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I have been a customer of OVH’s new Zimbra Starter service. It works for my personal and professional needs, CalDAV and ActiveSync are active. I do not use the web interface so no feedback on this.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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How comfortable are you guys with the fact that EU countries allow prosecutors and sometimes even police officers to issue their own search warrants without meaningful judicial review? Some EU courts will not exclude illegally obtained evidence either, so challenging the warrant later on will be pointless.

Oh, and you might be in a reasonable EU country and still be hit with an EIO from one of the unreasonable countries. This is especially concerning given recent ECJ rulings increasingly directing courts in receiving nations to blindly defer to the requesting party when dealing with EAWs, EIOs and similar.

Worth considering when hosting in the EU.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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post #8

Codeberg is only for FOSS projects. Is there some good European hosting provider for git? I really don't want to self host git.

Git is extremely easy to "self host". What makes things complicated are the web interfaces around code hosting, and all their supposedly important features. These days, Prs, issues, forums, wikis and all that seem to be synonymous with "git", which is pretty weird.

Which is ironic because PR is definitely alien to git. There is no such git concept as a PR, nor git pr command.

Coming from a pure git workflow in mailing lists where branches, and commits(and associated diff and git am metadata) are the unit of work, I struggled to adapt into the PR concept in the beginning.

I liked to work with gerrit, where the unit of the review is the commit. This also ensured a nice little history and curation of the change set. The commit in github is not even in the main tab of the PR. It is like it is a second thought. Even in the review, reviewing by commit is awkward and discouraged.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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post #16

I have been a customer of OVH’s new Zimbra Starter service. It works for my personal and professional needs, CalDAV and ActiveSync are active. I do not use the web interface so no feedback on this.

Does their Zimbra implementation support 2FA ?
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