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France is never going to send a nuke to the US.
Your attitude reminds me of this old meme: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/what-are-you-gonna-do-stab-me
So explain yourself instead of using memes.
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France is never going to send a nuke to the US.
They already nuked America economically twice in the 20th century. The first time the French involvement in gold markets caused the Great Depression and the second time the repatriation of gold caused a financial system crisis which severely damaged the dollar and forced the US to decouple the dollar from gold entirely.
Nuke means no return and MAD. Not a word you use lightly.
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They're related, though. Most other hegemons sought absolute domination and a weakening (and impoverishment) of everyone else. The US was generally confident in its security and prosperity that it allowed others to become prosperous, too.
No they are not. Second and third world countries, not buddy first world countries. They don’t get to just do their own thing. Need I go on.
South Korea and Taiwan were definitely not first world countries when they started. Not even inhabited by white people (so less likely to be favored by 60s America, for example).
The Persian Gulf states (Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE).
Israel also wasn't developed in 1947.
Let's not ignore facts when they're inconvenient.
In the Western Hemisphere the US track record has been a total mess but in the Eastern Hemisphere I'd say about 30% of the time US allies tripped on their own feet on the way to prosperity.
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So do the mall cop and the ICC. Why does this arbitrary level in-between matter?
The mall cop much more so than the ICC
That sure is an attitude that explains why US soft power (and with that, Empire) has been crumbling at an unprecedented rate.
You might not care about the rules, but the rest of the world takes notice. This is how you break a world order carefully designed to further your own interests.
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> I long thought their strong Gaullist stance on sovereignty was a bit silly in today's world There is very good reasons why De Gaulle was always a bit doubtful about American military protection and why post-war France put a strong emphasis on military sovereignty. That has nothing to do with any French stubbornness or a so called French anti-American feeling. The main reason is that De Gaulle experienced the fact A…
It was even more than that. In the late 1930s the US told France not to worry about those aggressive Germans next door, if things go pear-shaped we'll stand by you, you can rely on us to help defend you. This is why France went with its own nuclear deterrent, among other things.
Ukraine gave up their nukes due to American assurances as to Ukraine's defence.
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#616> As a source puts it, the French said: "Would you like more soldiers? You could have them. Would you like more naval support? You could have that. Would you like more air support? You could have that too." Thank God for the French. I long thought their strong Gaullist stance on sovereignty was a bit silly in today's world, but turns out they were right along. Europe can't trust any outside powers. Any external depen…
> Thank God for the French France has nowhere the military power to resist a country like the US. They have not invested in the military for a very long time and most of their equipment is completely outdated.
After the failure against countries with no military might like Vietnam, Irak, Afghanistan, and now Iran, I wouldn’t place a lot of importance into how much tech and quantity in the military plays a critical role into winning wars today.
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It was even more than that. In the late 1930s the US told France not to worry about those aggressive Germans next door, if things go pear-shaped we'll stand by you, you can rely on us to help defend you. This is why France went with its own nuclear deterrent, among other things.
Ukraine gave up their nukes due to American assurances as to Ukraine's defence.
Not this talking point again...
I am very pro Ukraine, but those nukes where never "Ukranian", they where Soviet nukes, staffed and manned and made by Russia.
This is like if USA puts nukes in Sweden under NATO, are they suddenly Swedish nukes? No.
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> Thank God for the French France has nowhere the military power to resist a country like the US. They have not invested in the military for a very long time and most of their equipment is completely outdated.
Ah but alas: have you considered that the US is increasingly run by actual idiots? It turns out even Iran has the power to resist a country like the US.
USA has not gone full force into Iran.
Need you be reminded of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War
What has happened to this site? Its all these leftie pro MENA talking points.
You can disagree with the tone on the user above but the fact is NOBODY can stand up to USA military.
t. Swede
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#619Russia's invasion ironically strengthened NATO, with more countries joining or feeling the usefulness of it. Somehow the US managed to break down all that good will in such a short amount of time.. I think it's hard to overstate how much more hostile people look at the US the last few years. So much soft power has been lost.
Covid, Russia and the axis of US+Israel has done massive damage to the European psyche. Covid showed us how economically dependent we are to major manufacturing countries like China. Paper money != ability to manufacture. Russia broke any notion of peace that can be funded by cheap energy. It will always be a tool used against you, and Russia will not change. The axis of US+Israel is breaking down the international s…
Damage?
It has strengthened us.
Nordics and the Baltics are very pro Ukraine, we have a common enemy now to focus on.
Poland has stepped up too militarlity.
Sweden where I am has seen a HUGE uplift in military spend, and the companies like SAAB and Bofors (heheh)
Germany is the big loser as they had cheap Russian energy and shut down their nuclear plants.
Where in Europe are you from exactly?
EU overall is pro Ukraine except for Hungary...
In summary, what are you on about? And post your passport.
Oh, and Israel is our ally. I am sick of EU being so pro Hamas and pro Iran. Thankfully our government cut down on grants to the MENA and increased to Ukraine!
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They don't because the west banned slavery on moral grounds, and enforced it on the rest of the world. That advance is actually just western power in effect.
That seems like a simplistic take, given that slavery in pratice still exists and we just decide not to call it slavery due to technical loopholes. The countries most closely associated with the global economic oil supply for example, are largely run on slave labour. "The west" is no longer a well defined thing. America is its own thing now, and I don't think it fits in with any traditional notion of "The West" anymo…
Sorry, I don't know what you're talking about. The west includes Canada, Australia, New Zealand. Not just Europe.
But when I'm talking about is hundreds of years ago. History goes back more than a few months.