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Post by jacquesm »

velancogito wrote: post #415
originalvichy wrote: post #116

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Covid, Russia and the axis of US+Israel has done massive damage to the European psyche. Covid showed us how economically dependent we are to major manufacturing countries like China. Paper money != ability to manufacture. Russia broke any notion of peace that can be funded by cheap energy. It will always be a tool used against you, and Russia will not change. The axis of US+Israel is breaking down the international s…

I could be wrong, but I've experienced the opposite. Seeing Putin and Trump openly undermine and threaten the EU forced countries to address the situation and take action. It's encouraging. I'm looking at this situation from Hungary tho, where Russian influence began 10–16 years ago. It seems Hungary has a chance to get rid of Orbán, and the rest of Europe is also taking measures finally. It's nice. The war in Ukrain…

It is pretty scary how many Hungarians are willing to jump back under the Russian boot. Much strength to you in the coming election.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by vrganj »

ekianjo wrote: post #480
vrganj wrote: post #293

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France has completely sovereign nukes and the only first-strike nuclear doctrine in the world. It has the military power to resist any country.

France is never going to send a nuke to the US.

Your attitude reminds me of this old meme: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/what-are-you-gonna-do-stab-me

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by jacquesm »

fifilura wrote: post #182
fluidcruft wrote: post #125

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I'm of pretty mixed feelings about this. It certainly strengthened Europe's collective defense priorities and awareness. That response happens to include NATO but primarily because Europe is too weak without NATO. Europe used to be full of world powers and now they collectively can't manage collective defense without the US? There's something very learned-helplessness about that. And yes, it certainly has served Amer…

Maybe a bit of learned helplessness, but what people tend to forget is that an all-in Russia is a formidable enemy. This is the moment it helps to have allies. Like an insurance. Even if you can manage without, it hurts less if you have them. To me it makes more sense to focus on that perspective.

> but what people tend to forget is that an all-in Russia is a formidable enemy

So you're saying they've been keeping their best in reserve?

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by jacquesm »

johanyc wrote: post #523
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #366

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I agree with you too but > from personal experience, as an American living in Europe for the last decade, I've had basically zero negative interactions with people or hostile accusations. Most people do understand that the American government is a bit out of control, and American culture is in a tumultuous period. If anything I'd say it tends more toward sympathy than anger Imagining that America attacked Greenland T…

On a more fundamental level, I think something is wrong with the American education system and results in so many low information voters who believe any words from their "hero". And fixing education takes decades to even see the result. They definitely can vote for another Trump-like guy and they have proven it by voting Trump back the second time. Honestly this is crazy to me this can even happen after Jan 6. The Br…

That's not an accident.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by jacquesm »

jeroenhd wrote: post #191

Every week, the USA finds a new way to lose credibility as a serious nation. If it weren't for the observably fair elections, you'd almost think America was being taken over from the inside by foreign infiltrators. It's ludicrous to see the USA threaten to invade a well-connected European country, invade a South American country weeks after, and then now, three months later, beg its European allies to help with the i…

> If it weren't for the observably fair elections

Hehe, that's a good one.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by Teever »

Tadpole9181 wrote: post #439
nickdothutton wrote: post #233

I think there is a pretty good chance US is in the late empire phase. This is not about a single President or party, or even single geopolitical event/development.

I'm sorry, this is just Republican apologetics. This is about a single party. How in the world could you possibly suggest otherwise? I'd love to hear how Biden, Obama, or Clinton got us into forever wars. Or how they threatened allies. Or how they destroyed our trade or deal-making reputation. Where are the Democrat newscasters saying we should invade Canada? The figure heads calling for internment camps? Are we all…

It's difficult to reply to a comment like this because the existence of it disproves what it is arguing for.

I wish this was just a Republican thing, or that people abroad perceived it as such but the reality is that people around the world no longer care about this Democrat - Republican split.

No one outside of America cares a Republican party started this shit. They care that this shit was started at all, because it means that the American system is out of control.

No one outside of America cares ifyou're a democrat or a republican. They just see you as American. And they see America as the source of so many of the world's problems.

Which means they see you as the source of those problems.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by jacquesm »

fulafel wrote: post #549
jacquesm wrote: post #543

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_and_defense_pacts_of_... https://eur-lex.europa.eu/EN/legal-content/glossary/collecti...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_alliances The EU treaty has a clause that calls for assistance for part of the members (who are not neutral) but there's no military structure outside NATO. There's also a perpatual public debate about whether EU should become a military alliance. eg https://theloop.ecpr.eu/can-the-eu-form-an-autonomous-milita... In practical terms, in event of a invasion, only NATO has…

You are really completely clueless, I have no idea why you keep posting comments that contradict your own comments but fine, whatever.

There are four different mutual defense pacts in Europe and there is an umbrella one and they all operate independently of NATO. And then there is NATO, with or without the USA.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by jacquesm »

jnwatson wrote: post #82
crispyambulance wrote: post #13

There's a difference between "posturing" for show and actually "preparing for war". They're wise to the fact that "the Stable Genius" isn't going to try anything violent with Denmark/Greenland, but they still want to prevent him thinking about just stealing territory "peacefully."

Ukraine thought Russia was just posturing and look where it got them.

That's not true. Ukraine was well prepared, they had spent since 2014 on this because they knew the day would come. That's the only reason the country still exists.

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Post by Teever »

jacquesm wrote: post #451
aprentic wrote: post #397

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I checked both the links in the other comment. While they satisfy the technical requirement of, "there exists an alternative" neither of them is generally available as a viable alternative to China.

They are for me.

I perused the links that you provided in another comment.

How much of these products are sourced from EU materials? Like is the copper in the wires from the EU? Is the wire made in the EU and coated with insulator there too? Are the motors wound in Europe?

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