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Critics never miss a chance to sit around and bitch about orange man.
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The US is very good at turning a functional state into anarchy, razed buildings and infrastructure, and lots of death. It doesn’t really matter if the US can pacify Denmark after its population gets decimated. It’s pure posturing to pretend any government in the EU or NATO countries will do anything to resist.
> It’s pure posturing to pretend any government in the EU or NATO countries will do anything to resist. Do you really think NATO wouldn't defend a NATO country being invaded? It isn't USA they are fighting against, it is just Trump, and that war wouldn't continue for many days before the congress decides to end it since USA doesn't want it. So I don't doubt NATO would go to defend Denmark there, since they know USA w…
Joining NATO means you show the US all of your military secrets and basically embed your military into the US military structure.
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> This all happened 20 years ago with Iraq. I think your argument falls apart here. The US built a coalition of on side allies before invading Iraq. They went to the UN too. There was significant opposition to the war, and I was a student at the time in the UK so was surrounded and involved in that. However, European countries were not politically blindsided. Some were going in with the US, including Denmark I believ…
They also didn't quite expect the USA to be blatantly lying about the intelligence that they brought to support their case.
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The thing is, look at all major military alliances in history. How many of them have a wealthy hegemon and wealthy minor partners? It's > rare for that to happen and the US managed that for about 80 years. Ignore all the propaganda and look at the results. Actions, not words. In the modern era there are basically 0 wealthy Russian (similar story for the Soviets) or Chinese allies.
That’s a different topic. This is about how America acts towards the world, historically the so-called second and third world but now apparently to potentially everyone.
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They also didn't quite expect the USA to be blatantly lying about the intelligence that they brought to support their case.
Lol. They knew it was lies and they went along with it anyway.
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That’s a different topic. This is about how America acts towards the world, historically the so-called second and third world but now apparently to potentially everyone.
They're related, though. Most other hegemons sought absolute domination and a weakening (and impoverishment) of everyone else. The US was generally confident in its security and prosperity that it allowed others to become prosperous, too.
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That’s a different topic. This is about how America acts towards the world, historically the so-called second and third world but now apparently to potentially everyone.
They're related, though. Most other hegemons sought absolute domination and a weakening (and impoverishment) of everyone else. The US was generally confident in its security and prosperity that it allowed others to become prosperous, too.
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We're talking decades just to undo the last 10 years. And it is still getting worse.
Unlikely, I think, because geopolitics has other players, and forgiving the US is still a better option for the EU than the other choices available.
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Are you talking about economic warfare? Too many EU nations are completely dependent on the US economically and it only takes one veto. The reality would be lots of denunciations, some token measures, followed by Business As Usual. Ireland, Poland, Germany, Spain aren't sacrificing their entire economies for Greenland.
I think you're thoroughly misreading the state of affairs here in Europe.
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Absolutely. The EU is now finally but rapidly adapting to these geopolitical changes. Defense budgets are now far higher than the 2% that used to be the goal that nobody met. In the 1990s everybody was eager to believe that war was finally and forever over. Some held on to that delusion for a bit too long, but not anymore.
That's not true. Even including military aid to Ukraine, EU average defence spending remains at 1.9%. It's also the most expensive region in the world to raise a military.
And that's just the direct allocation, not the under water part including venture funding of some of the defense industry (obvious overlap: anything including AI & drones, it's pure VC bait).