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You can make an awesome burger pattie with beef, onion, garlic, a touch of finely chopped jalapeno and some herbs and spices etc. You don't need to add salt.
You absolutely need salt for a good burger. It is fundamental seasoning in every savoury dish at every restaurant (fast or fine) for a reason.
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I was going to edit the comment with this but in Canada we have a company called Metro(grocer) and they often sell 4x fresh beef patties for ~$4 which is 1lb(454g) of ground beef and exactly nothing else. It's good to eat sans salt on bbq with your desired (typically salty) toppings. I know people salt the patty while cooking, but the topic at hand is Beyond and their patties.
....which should be compared against other premade patties and how people make and serve beef patties, not against the theoretical option that people could choose to omit salt. The whole "salt" angle is bikeshedding - no one advocated Beyond for salt, they pick it for all of the other health benefits (fats, cholesterol)
Nothing whatsoever is stopping Beyond from removing salt and allowing people to salt their own burgers, as they already do.
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How can you grow plants without killing animals?
I think it's a question of degree. For instance, if you grow an acre of corn you kill a few animals right? And you have an acre of corn which would feed a few people for a year. A cow takes about 10x as much corn per serving of meat, so that's 10x as many critters killed, and then you have to kill the cow. The creatures that are killed in the field, or on the road or whatever, they are living their little lives eatin…
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I think it's a question of degree. For instance, if you grow an acre of corn you kill a few animals right? And you have an acre of corn which would feed a few people for a year. A cow takes about 10x as much corn per serving of meat, so that's 10x as many critters killed, and then you have to kill the cow. The creatures that are killed in the field, or on the road or whatever, they are living their little lives eatin…
I live around thousands of cows grazing and they seem just as natural as your critters. I'm glad some folks are aware that producing food kills animals. And graziers are consuming grass. I have friends primarily eating Deer & Graziers, so their animal impact is similar to your happy critters.
When there's an up-slope winter breeze I can smell it.
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From your source: > Ultra-processed foods: Ultra-processed foods typically have more than 1 ingredient that you never or rarely find in a kitchen. They also tend to include many additives and ingredients that are not typically used in home cooking, such as preservatives, emulsifiers, sweeteners, and artificial colours and flavours. These foods generally have a long shelf life. Are there ingredients actually in the Be…
Also: > many additives and ingredients that are not typically used in home cooking, such as preservatives, emulsifiers Since when? Salt is a highly effective preservative, egg yolk is a powerful emulsifier, and they're largely used for those exact purposes . The amount of bullshit in "healthy eating" and fitness fad space never ceases to amaze me.
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I know many disagree, but Impossible patties are healthier and taste better. Furthermore it's nice that no animal got killed and there were fewer emissions.
It’s not a disagreement, it’s science. You are conflating your views on animals rights with this ultra processed goop, which is a common logical fallacy. I respect and understand the animals rights perspective, but the fake meat is simply not healthy. Don’t believe me, just see what high level athletes eat and the diets of cultures who live long.
Reminds me of folks who said "Avoid gluten-free because it's less healthy."
And high level athletes don't eat a lot of burger patties. They eat chicken (likely breast). When you're consuming a lot of meat, you have to make sure it's of good quality.
Also, just to point out:
> but the fake meat is simply not healthy.
I never said it's healthy. I can equally say:
> Beef patties are not healthy
Lets be real: unless fake-meat products become at least the same price as equivalent meat options whats the point? How big is the market for non-ideological vegans/vegetarians that are shopping for meat alternatives? Most people are not ideological with their food. Most people will only stop eating meat when it becomes too expensive to afford. Simple as that. What is the status you gain for being seen eating a beyond…
> Lets be real: unless fake-meat products become at least the same price as equivalent meat options what's the point? If you were to make fake plant-based products that were (a) noticeably healthier than meat, and (b) indistinguishable from meat taste-wise (or better-tasting), I'm quite confident a lot of people would pay a premium for that. The problem is the current products just don't deliver that. All they delive…
You can already eat healthy, better and more sustainably but doing what humans have done for millions of years. You dont need an industrialized, packaged, convenient and standardized flavour.
Honestly, i have come to see beyond and impossible as a variation of soylent. Its for a very specific and narrow market of people that I'd rather not describe
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....which should be compared against other premade patties and how people make and serve beef patties, not against the theoretical option that people could choose to omit salt. The whole "salt" angle is bikeshedding - no one advocated Beyond for salt, they pick it for all of the other health benefits (fats, cholesterol)
Salt, among the ingredients in the average burger is the most likely to cause you problems. Calling it bikeshedding is a massive stretch. In a talk of the importance of the contents of your diet related only to burgers, salt is the exact opposite of bikeshedding. Nothing whatsoever is stopping Beyond from removing salt and allowing people to salt their own burgers, as they already do.
I'm on blood pressure meds. I regularly check in with doctors on things. No, you shouldn't be eating unlimited salt, but sugar and cholesterol are killing (and debilitating) many more of us.
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Ground beef from the butcher does not have nitrates
In my opinion, there are two options for each group: Meat: 1. Those who buy from butcher (health conscious) 2. Those who buy packaged products from supermarket. Vegan: 1. Those who make homemade plant-based alternatives (eg.lentil burgers) 2. Those who buy Beyond burgers from supermarket. Hence I think most people are trying to compare apples to oranges, which is not the correct comparison to make when weighing up ea…
I always wondered who their demographic was. The core early adopters, the ethical vegans, who actually like the taste of plants are never going to make a lab made ultra processed salt bomb their daily driver (never mind issues surrounding industrial agriculture). Health-conscious folks would take one look at the ingredient list and bail because of the heavy processing and industrial fillers. You've got bodybuilders a…
My vegetarian friends can now go to a restaurant (or better example yet, any event space like sports event or theme park, since having a veggie burger is pretty easy to check a box and satisfy dietary restrictions) and get any of the burger offerings on the menu with a beyond patty. Before that, the vegetarian option of only resort was often much more depressing and unsubstantial.