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Beyond has dropped “meat” from its name and expanded its high-protein drink line

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Post by ErroneousBosh »

latexr wrote: post #365
ErroneousBosh wrote: post #260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Linked to" in the sense that someone guessed that red meat might cause cancer, devised a bunch of experiments to prove it, and ended up after incredible amounts of effort with a result that shows just on the very limits of statistical significance that perhaps one person in a population the size of the UK might have a slightly elevated risk of cancer, maybe going from one in 15 to one in 14. So, yes, "linked to". Yo…

> I have noticed a lot of the people I know who eat a vegan diet don't eat particularly healthy stuff. Neither do people who don’t eat vegan, so that’s irrelevant to the point. I couldn’t help notice you skipped over the points of killing animals and accelerating destroying the environment.

You need livestock farming to have arable farming. Growing only plants is phenomenally destructive to the soil.

Every time you eat a "Beyond Meat" burger, you have permanently destroyed a patch of what used to be rain forest and is now crappy farmland about the size of a car parking space.

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Post by nbosse »

One of the underrated ways of reducing meat consumption, imo, would be to mix a certain percentage of plant-based meat to regular meat products. Imagine a world in which McDonald's would just mix 20% plant-based meet to their patties. I can see some risk for them, but honestly, long-term, I don't think people would actually mind much.

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Post by Angostura »

nbosse wrote: post #413

One of the underrated ways of reducing meat consumption, imo, would be to mix a certain percentage of plant-based meat to regular meat products. Imagine a world in which McDonald's would just mix 20% plant-based meet to their patties. I can see some risk for them, but honestly, long-term, I don't think people would actually mind much.

The did that in Tesco (uk supermarket) for a couple of years - sold fresh mince that contained 30% carrot and other veg. I used it quite a lot and it was good. But they stopped. I guess it wasn’t popular

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Post by Angostura »

Grimblewald wrote: post #11

I always wondered who their demographic was. The core early adopters, the ethical vegans, who actually like the taste of plants are never going to make a lab made ultra processed salt bomb their daily driver (never mind issues surrounding industrial agriculture). Health-conscious folks would take one look at the ingredient list and bail because of the heavy processing and industrial fillers. You've got bodybuilders a…

I bought them because I like meat but want to reduce my carbon footprint a bit and am not that impressed with animal husbandry standards

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Post by BeetleB »

cpursley wrote: post #326
BeetleB wrote: post #62

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> I never understood these engineered ultra processed meat imitation products, they are not healthy - period. People don't eat burgers for health reasons. > There's already healthy and delicious cuisines that have developed over thousands of years (Indian, Nepalese, I'm sure many others). Why eat ice cream when chicken is healthier? You're comparing apples and oranges. Yes, there are plenty of delicious vegetarian fo…

Then eat a burger if you want a burger, they are healthy if you skip the buns and sugar ketchup and use quality beef. Throw it on a veg salad for a balanced meal.

I know many disagree, but Impossible patties are healthier and taste better.

Furthermore it's nice that no animal got killed and there were fewer emissions.

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Post by billynomates »

latexr wrote: post #254
billynomates wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately by still eating dairy and eggs, you are participating in that system.

Who says they eat dairy and eggs? “Vegetarian” isn’t such a simplistic label like that. It doesn’t mean “I eat exactly these things”. For all we know, they eat only eggs and from a local farm (or have their own chickens). Furthermore, it’s a bad argument to imply vastly reduced complicity with a system is the same as full complicity.

Yes that's what vegetarian means, 99% of the time.

Where did I say "full complicity"? But yes, animals who are farms for milk and eggs are treated just as badly, sometimes worse, than animals that are farmed for meat.

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Post by [deleted] »

t1234s wrote: post #406

I think beyond nailed the texture of their burger patties. When you fry one up it has the same texture as a cheap frozen hamburger patty. Their sausage links also have a similar texture to a cheap frozen bratwurst. I think beyond nailed the taste a bit better than impossible. Also beyond seems to use better ingredients than impossible. All these products are high in sodium like all processed food and you definitely s…

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Post by Lord-Jobo »

liveoneggs wrote: post #356
penguin_booze wrote: post #285

I badly wanted no other market to develop but synthesised meat, to produce something at par with natural one. The industry has successfully marketed and packaged meat as "that thing you buy", hiding the immense and unconscionable cruelty which sentient beings are subjected to.

you can easily opt out of meat eating and try learning not to desire control over every other person

Can elaborate on how wishing for the growth of this market is “the desire to control every other person”?
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