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Beyond has dropped “meat” from its name and expanded its high-protein drink line

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Re: Beyond has dropped “meat” from its name and expanded its high-protein drink line

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Post by slashdev »

xvector wrote: post #348
afavour wrote: post #151

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> And at most restaurants, I've never noticed a "premium" for it I just did a quick search on Uber Eats in NYC. Every Beyond Burger I found was between $3-5 more than a regular burger. That’s the reason I stopped eating them, I actually quite like the texture and flavor. I just don’t like the price.

Eh I just decided that $3-5 extra is fine for not causing immense amounts of physical suffering to some poor animal for my burger meal.

So you've decided it's more ethical it not be born or live at all. Obviously the only reason beef cattle exist at all is because we eat them.

It doesn't seem such a clear cut ethical decision to me. Certainly there are some forms of raising livestock that are terrible (broiler chickens come to mind), but there are other forms that actually seem quite pleasant for the animals most of the time (e.g. free-range cattle).

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Post by fatata123 »

carlmr wrote: post #268
rcakebread wrote: post #182

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"they're lower in sodium and saturated fat than your average hamburger patty" If you buy a Beyond patty, it has way more sodium than ground beef you'd buy at a grocerty store. Comparing it with a fast food burger isn't really fair.

>it has way more sodium than ground beef you'd buy at a grocerty store We're not comparing fairly here. A finished hamburger patty is not pure ground beef. Did you ever make a hamburger patty yourself? You add salt and spices at a minimum. A more fair comparison would be looking at store-bought hamburger patties. That's the same category of food. I just compared Beyond (0.75g salt per 100g) and block house American B…

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Post by gwbas1c »

3rodents wrote: post #7

I disagree with the idea that it's "not the moment for plant-based meat". Beyond Meat has a fantastic product that does very well in lots of markets. The problem is that Beyond Meat the company was valued as some sort of once in a generation radical reimagining of the way we eat. Beyond Meat's product is not going to change the world, it's just a good product. If Beyond Meat had grown organically, instead of raising…

I think there was a fallacy that suddenly the whole of the general public would rush to stop eating meat and would accept a meat-like substitute; and that vegetarians craved something that tasted like meat.

This of course was completely false, but far too many people let themselves get caught up in hype instead of reason.

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I remember having an excellent veggie burger at a bar, and then when I went back a year later, it was replaced by Beyond or Impossible, and the bar tender was pretty open about how it was gross but their distributor pushed it on them. That of course pissed off the vegetarians who didn't like meat and had no desire for a meat-like substitute.

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Post by malfist »

behringer wrote: post #395
malfist wrote: post #381

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Maybe awesome to you, but many people will find that exact same construction more flavorful if salt is added

Yes but that would make it "unhealthy" for many Americans. So for the health-conscious eater, the real hamburger wins.

Salt is not a health concern unless you specifically have a specific subset of cardiac health problems.

The vast, vast, vast majority of people do not have any reason to restrict salt intake.

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Post by t1234s »

I think beyond nailed the texture of their burger patties. When you fry one up it has the same texture as a cheap frozen hamburger patty. Their sausage links also have a similar texture to a cheap frozen bratwurst. I think beyond nailed the taste a bit better than impossible. Also beyond seems to use better ingredients than impossible. All these products are high in sodium like all processed food and you definitely shouldn't live off them, just like you shouldn't live off cheap frozen burgers and sausages. Price-wise they cost more per pound than good quality beef in my area. For any meat eater you should definitely amuse yourself and fry up some of this "Internet Meat" and try it out.

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Post by reaperducer »

KnuthIsGod wrote: post #168
thevillagechief wrote: post #119

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I believe it. Every summer we buy goat or lamb imported from Australia/New Zealand. It's usually less than $15/lb. Those two countries barely provide any subsidies for their farmers, and the meat is cheaper than my local farmers, even with their strict biosecurity regulations.

Australian citizen here. There are massive tax, fuel, land tax, health care subsidies for our farmers. Even doctors who cater to the remote areas where farmers dwell get extra payments from our governments. https://www.health.gov.au/topics/rural-health-workforce/clas...

Even doctors who cater to the remote areas where farmers dwell get extra payments from our governments.

Very common in the United States, too.

There are a lot of doctors who get their student loans reduced or paid off by state and local governments in exchange for working a certain number of years in less-desirable locations. I've worked with a number of them.

There was an entire TV show based on it that ran on CBS for five years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Exposure

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Post by malfist »

legitster wrote: post #92
malfist wrote: post #79

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I disagree, I enjoy beyond and impossible beef and their sausage. I'll often (though not always) opt for it while out because I think it tastes close enough to the real deal and doesn't have the ethical concerns of real meat. I am not vegetarian or vegan, though I do sympathize with their point of view. If bean burgers actually tasted good I might occasionally get those but they're gross

> If bean burgers actually tasted good I might occasionally get those but they're gross Bean burgers are actually delicious depending on the brand and how you dress them up. It doesn't taste like a smash burger, but if you get a brand that grills up nice and crispy and pair it with a nice spicy mayo, it's legitimately a good burger. Also, don't sleep on the humble Boca burger which has existed for decades. It's not a…

Every time I've tried a bean burger, including the boca burger it's always been immensely disappointing. Other people love them, and that's fine, but bean burgers are more burger adjacent than burger substitute. It's a different thing with a different flavor profile, even if it's shaped and styled like a hamburger. Beyond meat though, it's a burger substitute. Tasted so close to real meat that unless it's been undercooked or over salted it's hard to tell a difference.

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Post by baud147258 »

unfitted2545 wrote: post #390
baud147258 wrote: post #264

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> Have you tried dog meat? I'd like to try one day. But I don't think I'd easily find a butcher selling it here in Western Europe

You could kill a stray! Or is it better to have someone else handle that "natural" part, or would the animals have to be brought into life on a farm to be eligible for killing?

well, I'd be wary to eat meat from stray dogs, because I don't know what parasites and illnesses they might carry.

> would the animals have to be brought into life on a farm to be eligible for killing?

Well, I'm not against (regulated) hunting, so no. Though I don't think that dogs are allowed to be hunted here.

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Post by drewg123 »

Grimblewald wrote: post #11

I always wondered who their demographic was. The core early adopters, the ethical vegans, who actually like the taste of plants are never going to make a lab made ultra processed salt bomb their daily driver (never mind issues surrounding industrial agriculture). Health-conscious folks would take one look at the ingredient list and bail because of the heavy processing and industrial fillers. You've got bodybuilders a…

I'm the demographic. I became vegan a several years ago when I was in my late 40s for health reasons -- all males in my family my age or older have had multiple heart attacks except for me. I didn't become vegan because I like eating salads. I miss the taste of meat, and beyond does a decent job of it (Impossible is far better).

If animal agriculture was not subsidized, I expect plant based "meats" would be on par or cheaper than real meat.

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