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Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

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Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

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Post by Eldt »

wek wrote: post #599
djxfade wrote: post #537

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. What if, hear me out, parents actually parent, instead of relegating the parenting to companies, and ruining the internet for the rest of us?

I'm concerned about these laws and their implications for privacy, but as a parent, I'm not sure what you mean to say parents should parent. How? What should the parent do? How would you recommend a parent protect a 13 year old who spends their time in their room and out with their friends on their phones?

Monitor computer activity, don't give them a smart phone at 13

Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

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Post by throwaway173738 »

kakacik wrote: post #597
sschueller wrote: post #562

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Swiss eID is open source[1] and it's usage will be limited. Any type of age verification for online service would need go to a vote and would probably loose. "Eigenverantwortung", it is the parents job to look after the kids, not the state. [1] https://github.com/swiyu-admin-ch

You can't just push responsibility for the kids to the parents, where is the world going? This is madness. The next thing you are going to claim kids from young age shouldn't have fully unlocked smart phones, shouldn't install any app and so on. Where is the end of this? Are you telling me parents should spend more time with kids, heck even be their role models although it is much harder compared to just giving up on…

Look, I have a two-year old. But I think it’s possible to do what you want without compromising the privacy of the user. I also don’t think it’s right to require every device to share information that makes my child a target for predators like Meta.

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Post by charlieyu1 »

bradley13 wrote: post #505

The article makes one mistake: praising Europe for having a better approach. Governments here are pushing hard to force ID requirements. Sure, they start by pretending it's "for the children" and they "only want age verification". They also claim that e-IDs will be voluntary. Camel. Nose. Tent. These are the same governments that file criminal charges when you compare lying leader to Pinocchio (Germany). The UK recor…

It is almost like every government is shit and politics only attract psychopaths who want more power over other people.

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Post by tashbarg »

bradley13 wrote: post #610
tashbarg wrote: post #536

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regarding the Pinocchio thing: Local police said „that‘s probably insult“ and sent it to public prosecutors. Public prosecutors investigated and said „nope, free speech“. I really don’t see the problem.

Sure, but the fact remains that it was referred for criminal prosecution. They didn't follow through, this time, but the victim still had his "lesson" about insulting his betters. And Germany really did sentence people for calling Mr. Habeck "Schwachkopf", which is about as mild an insult as you can find.

Germany really did not. Where do you get such nonsense?

The guy was sentenced for distributing forbidden Nazi materials.

The initial insult investigation was dropped, because of it being insignificant.

Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

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Post by Aurornis »

I tried to read the research when it was posted on Reddit a few days ago, but it’s all AI slop. The person who uploaded it admitted that they just had Claude go out and explore their hypotheses, but they didn’t even spend the time trying to get the real documents into Claude. Claude identified documents it wanted but couldn’t access them, so it just proposed hypothetical connections.

The research has a lot of these:

> LIMITATION: Direct PDF downloads returned 403 errors. ProPublica Schedule I viewer loads data dynamically (JavaScript), preventing extraction via WebFetch. The 2024 public disclosure copy on sixteenthirtyfund.org was also blocked.

> Tech Transparency Project report: The article "Inside Meta's Spin Machine on Kids and Social Media" at techtransparencyproject.org likely contains detailed ConnectSafely/Meta funding analysis but was blocked (403)

So the “research” isn’t some groundbreaking discoveries by a Redditor. It’s an afternoon worth of Claude Code slop where they couldn’t even take the time to get the real documents into the local workspace so Claude Code could access them. It’s now getting repeated by sites like Theo gadgetreview.com because the people posting to these sites aren’t reading the report either.

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Post by Simulacra »

I think this is only the first step towards a license for the Internet. The best example I know of is South Korea, where you have a state issued login. I think it's only a matter of time until the U.S. government knows exactly who you are at all times on the Internet, and this effort is completely agnostic of party or doctrine. This has been building across multiple administrations.

Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

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Post by GlacierFox »

kakacik wrote: post #597
sschueller wrote: post #562

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Swiss eID is open source[1] and it's usage will be limited. Any type of age verification for online service would need go to a vote and would probably loose. "Eigenverantwortung", it is the parents job to look after the kids, not the state. [1] https://github.com/swiyu-admin-ch

You can't just push responsibility for the kids to the parents, where is the world going? This is madness. The next thing you are going to claim kids from young age shouldn't have fully unlocked smart phones, shouldn't install any app and so on. Where is the end of this? Are you telling me parents should spend more time with kids, heck even be their role models although it is much harder compared to just giving up on…

Clearly the other commenters haven't picked up on your blatant sarcasm for some reason.

Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

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Post by delecti »

mwelpa wrote: post #555

has any of upvoters at least opened the article? there's no proof or event screen/link to reddit discussion. It's just comparison to EU's law.

The article starts with the words "A Reddit researcher", and "Reddit researcher" is a link to the reddit thread in question.
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