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Re: Warn about PyPy being unmaintained

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What euphemism do you prefer then...

Undermaintained might be more suited since it does have life but doesn't appear commercially healthy nor apparently relevant to other communities.

Underphrased like a pro.

Re: Warn about PyPy being unmaintained

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What euphemism do you prefer then...

There's a difference between dead (i.e. "unmaintained") and low activity ("not under active development"). From what I can see PyPy is in the latter category (and being in that category does not mean it's going to die soon), so choosing to claim it is unmaintained is notable.

Being three major versions behind CPython is definitely not a great sign for the long-term viability of it.

Re: Warn about PyPy being unmaintained

#26
PyPy is a fantastic achievement and deserves far more support than it gets. Microsoft’s “Faster CPython” team tried to make Python 5x faster but only achieved ~1.5x in four years - meanwhile PyPy has been running at over 5x faster for decades.

On the other hand, I always got the impression that the main goal of PyPy is to be a research project (on meta-tracing, STM etc) rather than a replacement for CPython in production.

Maybe that, plus the core Python team’s indifference towards non-CPython implementations, is why it doesn’t get the recognition it deserves.

Re: Warn about PyPy being unmaintained

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What annoys me is the name. Early morning it took me a moment to realise that PyPy is not PyPi, so at first I thought they referred to PyPi. Really, just for the name confusion alone, one of those two should have to go.

Edit: I understand the underlying issue and the PyPy developer's opinion. I don't disagree on that part; I only refer to the name similarity as a problem.

Re: Warn about PyPy being unmaintained

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a difference between dead (i.e. "unmaintained") and low activity ("not under active development"). From what I can see PyPy is in the latter category (and being in that category does not mean it's going to die soon), so choosing to claim it is unmaintained is notable.

Being three major versions behind CPython is definitely not a great sign for the long-term viability of it.

I'm not sure "major versions" is the most correct term here, but I think your point is spot on
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