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Re: Warn about PyPy being unmaintained

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@kvinogradov (Open source endowment), I am (Pinging?) you because I think that you may be of help as I remember you stating that within the Open source endowment and the approach of how & which open source projects are better funded[0]

And I think that PyPy might be of interest to the Fund for sponsoring given its close to unmaintained. PyPy is really great in general speeding up Python[1] by magnitudes of order.

Maybe the fund could be of help in order to help paying the maintainer who are underfunded which lead to the situation being unmaintained in the first place. Pinging you because I am interested to hear your response and hopefully, see PyPy having better funding model for its underfunded maintainers.

[0]: https://endowment.dev/about/#model

[1]: https://benjdd.com/languages2/ (Refer to PyPY and Python difference being ~15x)

Re: Warn about PyPy being unmaintained

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wow, that would be a big shame. I hope many of the useful learnings are already ported to CPython.

Almost none of it will have been ported to CPython, as it's a completely different approach.

I really like PyPy’s approach of using a Python dialect (RPython) as the implementation language, instead of C. From a conceptual perspective, it is much more elegant. And there are other C-like Python dialects now too - Cython, mypy’s mypyc. It would be a shame if PyPy dies.

Re: Warn about PyPy being unmaintained

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@kvinogradov (Open source endowment), I am (Pinging?) you because I think that you may be of help as I remember you stating that within the Open source endowment and the approach of how & which open source projects are better funded[0] And I think that PyPy might be of interest to the Fund for sponsoring given its close to unmaintained. PyPy is really great in general speeding up Python[1] by magnitudes of order. May…

> @kvinogradov (Open source endowment), I am (Pinging?) you

unfortunately, @-pinging does not work on this site, it does nothing to notify anyone. If you want to get a specific person’s attention, use off-site communication mechanisms

Re: Warn about PyPy being unmaintained

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If anyone else is also barely aware and confused by the similar names, PyPI is the Python Package Index, which is up and maintained. PyPy is "A fast, compliant alternative implementation of Python." which doesn't have enough devs to release a version for 3.12[0]. [0]: https://github.com/orgs/pypy/discussions/5145

Reminds me of Cython vs CPython

Re: Warn about PyPy being unmaintained

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If anyone else is also barely aware and confused by the similar names, PyPI is the Python Package Index, which is up and maintained. PyPy is "A fast, compliant alternative implementation of Python." which doesn't have enough devs to release a version for 3.12[0]. [0]: https://github.com/orgs/pypy/discussions/5145

Thanks, I also saw this as PyPI and was confused, lol

now somebody just needs to make a PiPy for the raspberry pi

Re: Warn about PyPy being unmaintained

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@kvinogradov (Open source endowment), I am (Pinging?) you because I think that you may be of help as I remember you stating that within the Open source endowment and the approach of how & which open source projects are better funded[0] And I think that PyPy might be of interest to the Fund for sponsoring given its close to unmaintained. PyPy is really great in general speeding up Python[1] by magnitudes of order. May…

HN doesn’t have this sort of pinging behavior :/

Re: Warn about PyPy being unmaintained

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Somewhat interesting that "volunteer project no longer under active development" got changed to "unmaintained".

What euphemism do you prefer then...

There's a difference between dead (i.e. "unmaintained") and low activity ("not under active development"). From what I can see PyPy is in the latter category (and being in that category does not mean it's going to die soon), so choosing to claim it is unmaintained is notable.
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