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I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported

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Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported

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We all know the pattern: something useful launches → it becomes popular → it needs to make money → ads everywhere. AI chat is heading the same way. So I built a fully interactive demo that shows what an ad-supported AI chatbot could actually look like: https://99helpers.com/tools/ad-supported-chat It includes every monetization pattern you can think of: - Pre-chat interstitials (like YouTube pre-rolls, but for chat)…

What about security tiers:

- base tier: your code had 1% of no back doors - starter tier: your code has 100% additional chance of no back doors - security guru tier: generated code has 1000% additional probability of not having security back doors

Note: sneaky language means you have 99, 98, and 89 percent chance of backdoors respectively.

Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported

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> streaming platforms that have ad-subsidized subscriptions with ads (as the name suggests) certainly haven't been driven out by market competition which ones don't have an ad free tier?

YouTube didn't have an ad-free tier for a very long time

YouTube Red was released over a decade ago. I haven't watched ads on YouTube for about that long.

Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported

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> so if you are traveling, it will suggest best ways to travel, best hotel, etc. The scary part: they are already doing that. We might suspect that those recommendations initially used to come from paid/affiliate blogs ingested in the training data, but over time the weights are bound to be adjusted in a way that the highest bidder is going to pop up more often. There is no way to know - from the outside at least - w…

This isn’t how deep learning works. You can’t just “adjust weights” for some random user/product. I feel like even otherwise intelligent people these days think these chatbots are Westworld-like programmable AIs and not pieces of shit that barely run or work. There is no tech monolith that’s getting advanced and gaining new capabilities. There are some very smart people who have switched from building ad recommenders…

Isn't that literally what post-training/fine-tuning does?

Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported

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We all know the pattern: something useful launches → it becomes popular → it needs to make money → ads everywhere. AI chat is heading the same way. So I built a fully interactive demo that shows what an ad-supported AI chatbot could actually look like: https://99helpers.com/tools/ad-supported-chat It includes every monetization pattern you can think of: - Pre-chat interstitials (like YouTube pre-rolls, but for chat)…

The darkest monetization is biased output from the bot. Tech question? Steer you to its cloud. Medical question? Steer you towards a sponsored treatment. Or maybe the mechanism of injury needs this lawyer to compensate? Oh and I infer from your chat history you're about to expect a child. That house is probably too small now, so our realtor in that neighborhood can help!

> tech question

Route you to a shady scam center that paid for the ad spot.

Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported

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We all know the pattern: something useful launches → it becomes popular → it needs to make money → ads everywhere. AI chat is heading the same way. So I built a fully interactive demo that shows what an ad-supported AI chatbot could actually look like: https://99helpers.com/tools/ad-supported-chat It includes every monetization pattern you can think of: - Pre-chat interstitials (like YouTube pre-rolls, but for chat)…

"it needs too make money -> ads everywhere"

Even the AI company manages to collect licensing fees, it will also collect data about the people using it and it will be permitted to use that data for commercial purposes

That data will probbly be used for advertising purposes, whether by the AI company or some other company

Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported

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We all know the pattern: something useful launches → it becomes popular → it needs to make money → ads everywhere. AI chat is heading the same way. So I built a fully interactive demo that shows what an ad-supported AI chatbot could actually look like: https://99helpers.com/tools/ad-supported-chat It includes every monetization pattern you can think of: - Pre-chat interstitials (like YouTube pre-rolls, but for chat)…

> We all know the pattern: something useful launches → it becomes popular → it needs to make money → ads everywhere.

This may be true, but as far as I am concerned there aren't ads anywhere thanks to uBlock (and my own DNS server as a second line of defense).

Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported

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We all know the pattern: something useful launches → it becomes popular → it needs to make money → ads everywhere. AI chat is heading the same way. So I built a fully interactive demo that shows what an ad-supported AI chatbot could actually look like: https://99helpers.com/tools/ad-supported-chat It includes every monetization pattern you can think of: - Pre-chat interstitials (like YouTube pre-rolls, but for chat)…

> We all know the pattern: something useful launches → it becomes popular → it needs to make money → ads everywhere. This may be true, but as far as I am concerned there aren't ads anywhere thanks to uBlock (and my own DNS server as a second line of defense).

And how’s that going to work against LLM output?

Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The darkest monetization is biased output from the bot. Tech question? Steer you to its cloud. Medical question? Steer you towards a sponsored treatment. Or maybe the mechanism of injury needs this lawyer to compensate? Oh and I infer from your chat history you're about to expect a child. That house is probably too small now, so our realtor in that neighborhood can help!

This is quaint. The darkest monetization is turning it into 4chan 2.0: an overwhelming psyop to mobilize exploitable people to think, believe and do horrendous shit that conveniently benefits the most powerful and corrupt people on Earth. It will make Qanon seem like a cute ARG.

I mean, money can serve a similar purpose.

...Which is also why people who control a lot of it are an existential threat to civilization.

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