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Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported

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For sure this wouldn't be legal. Ads clearly need to be labeled as ads.

Can you think of any instances where powerful tech companies broke laws, perhaps in ways that increased profit?

I can't think of any. Thankfully, we are saved.

Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported

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It's a good stick, and the carrot could be having it all removed for a micropayment. Really, there should be a way to do that across a range of sites all at once.

Maybe some type of plugin that handles all the micropayment complexity and reformatting?

"Pay Once Read Anywhere" PORA vs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write_once,_run_anywhere (1995)

Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported

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The darkest monetization is biased output from the bot. Tech question? Steer you to its cloud. Medical question? Steer you towards a sponsored treatment. Or maybe the mechanism of injury needs this lawyer to compensate? Oh and I infer from your chat history you're about to expect a child. That house is probably too small now, so our realtor in that neighborhood can help!

For sure this wouldn't be legal. Ads clearly need to be labeled as ads.

I'm guessing one form it will take is simply by omission.

User asks for recommendation. AI generates answer saying product is absolute garbage. Company pays to simply have that portion of the answer just not appear. It will be a post-filter sentiment analysis on the original answer. Nobody can ever prove what would have appeared or not.

This is the beauty of AI - while a search engine is at least semi deterministic and you can reasonably question why it wouldn't bring up a site that is clearly relevant, AI has plausible deniability. who can ever say why it generates this answer or that?

Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported

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It’s strange to see extreme amount of hysteria on this. There’s enough market competition to not allow this. If ChatGPT is doing it then just move to Claude. If all are doing it then surely opensource models are a good alternative. But i think leaning into the hysteria provides some comfort

How is the competition making money?

Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported

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We all know the pattern: something useful launches → it becomes popular → it needs to make money → ads everywhere. AI chat is heading the same way. So I built a fully interactive demo that shows what an ad-supported AI chatbot could actually look like: https://99helpers.com/tools/ad-supported-chat It includes every monetization pattern you can think of: - Pre-chat interstitials (like YouTube pre-rolls, but for chat)…

Is this avoidable? These things cost money to run. Who pays if not with ads? There will I’m sure be the ability to pay and not have ads just like there is on streaming platforms, podcasts, etc. Or should there be tax supported free AI?

There are many products without ad-free versions (including tvs now lol). Streaming services are starting to go this way too.

Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported

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We all know the pattern: something useful launches → it becomes popular → it needs to make money → ads everywhere. AI chat is heading the same way. So I built a fully interactive demo that shows what an ad-supported AI chatbot could actually look like: https://99helpers.com/tools/ad-supported-chat It includes every monetization pattern you can think of: - Pre-chat interstitials (like YouTube pre-rolls, but for chat)…

What a nightmare fueled vision of the future. It probably underestimates just how bad it will be. Well done.

Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported

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We all know the pattern: something useful launches → it becomes popular → it needs to make money → ads everywhere. AI chat is heading the same way. So I built a fully interactive demo that shows what an ad-supported AI chatbot could actually look like: https://99helpers.com/tools/ad-supported-chat It includes every monetization pattern you can think of: - Pre-chat interstitials (like YouTube pre-rolls, but for chat)…

The darkest monetization is biased output from the bot. Tech question? Steer you to its cloud. Medical question? Steer you towards a sponsored treatment. Or maybe the mechanism of injury needs this lawyer to compensate? Oh and I infer from your chat history you're about to expect a child. That house is probably too small now, so our realtor in that neighborhood can help!

This is quaint. The darkest monetization is turning it into 4chan 2.0: an overwhelming psyop to mobilize exploitable people to think, believe and do horrendous shit that conveniently benefits the most powerful and corrupt people on Earth.

It will make Qanon seem like a cute ARG.

Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported

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And your evidence is a screenshot in a reddit post from 2 years ago? Rather than "Open the app and check", which I did, and there a no ads. Nor have I ever seen that promo from the screenshot, or any of those other things you mention. I'm guessing you are complaining about something that you don't even have?

You must love the taste of rubber

Oh yes of course, everyone's a boot licker because you're unable to do the minimum to verify the claims you make.

Nothing absurd with that claim at all.

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