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Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by estearum »

eunos wrote: post #73
hnthrowaway0315 wrote: post #56

If the hard-liners IRGC generals went with him then it might be a good thing for its economy. I have heard some rumors that China was frustrated that IRGC pushed against the deals and were not willing to accept foreign investments in key oil/infra projects because they sit on them -- and that was why China never put down any real investments after signing the deals.

IRGC or whatever succeed next should wise themselves and stop hedging about whatever next deal with US/EU.

No matter who steps up, Trump's actions make clear they have only two options:

1. Permanent subjugation to western countries, to be unilaterally abused whenever they felt like it, or

2. Race to the nuke as fast and as secretly as possible

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Post by Alex_L_Wood »

sosomoxie wrote: post #759
Alex_L_Wood wrote: post #559

It’s so funny reading most comments here, knowing that they’d be celebrating and saying this is good if it was Netanyahu. But when it’s a maniacal islamist declaring his goal to be the destruction of US and Israel, it’s suddenly very nuanced.

Obviously, given that Netanyahu is the face of the entity at the root cause of all of these problems.

Oh, please enlighten us what is the entity, don’t be a coward!

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Post by jo6gwb »

Cipater wrote: post #454

I work with and know a lot of Shia (non-Iranian) Muslims and listening to them talk about this assassination I'm convinced that the likelihood of attempted terror attacks against the US has increased significantly. The non-Iranian part is key. Millions of muslims around the world viewed the Iranian theocracy as the only power in the world fighting for Islam. They are devastated.

Well that's an awfully Islamophobic take. Never has a condition been so aptly named.

This morning's terror attack in Austin was perpetuated by one wearing a "property of Allah" shirt.

The world need not continue to live with and accept Islamic barbarism, and the people of the US will not bend to the sword of the Mullahs or your Shia coworkers.

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Post by PolygonSheep »

1a527dd5 wrote: post #86

I wonder how old the rest of the commentators are. I watched the Shock and Awe campaign. I watched Saddam fall. I remember thinking this is great. Years later, I understand it was a complete folly. Removing Saddam in itself was good but what it did the wider region was not good.

It's because we do these things not for American interests, but for the interests of a small country that has captured our political establishment through campaign finance and blackmail.

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Post by konart »

_zagj wrote: post #273

Looks like Russia's Shahad drone supply chain just got disrupted.

Russia does not import Shaheds for years now. Modern versions where developed in Russia and are produced on Russian soil.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yelabuga_drone_factory

"As of late spring 2025 Russia has been producing around 170 Geran-2 drones per day, with indication that a total of around 26,000 Gerans were produced by Yelabuga drone factory"

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Post by jfengel »

rayiner wrote: post #713
Cipater wrote: post #567

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any celebrations are an indicator but are far from the entire picture. Wouldn't there be celebrations in the US if Trump died? What conclusions would you draw from that?

Judging by George W. Bush’s approval rating right after 9/11, it probably wouldn’t be very many.

You may be right, but a lot has changed in the last quarter century. The 9/11 attacks came at a time when the Cold War had just ended and the dotcom boom had just given us a strong economy. There was a lot of resentment over the 2000 election but it didn't seem like the end of the world.

Since then public discourse has almost completely broken down. The President spends his days thinking of insults, and has deployed masked armed forces against civilians. As bitter as 2000 was, it's nothing compared to January 6 2021.

I imagine the details would depend on the circumstances. Say, a targeted assassination versus killing thousands of civilians. But I'm not so sure that things would look anything like 9/11.

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Post by MichaelRo »

empath75 wrote: post #127
pinkmuffinere wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s no guarantee, but it is a good opportunity. I’m half-Persian, and certainly not as closely connected as others, but it’s hard to see this as a bad thing. There’s a possibility I can go visit my family in Iran as a result of this. I haven’t had a good chance for that in like 4 years

The most likely situation is continuity. They just pick a new supreme leader. The second most likely situation is a civil war.

In Romania it took some 10 years to reach some degree of functional democracy after the fall of communism and the execution on Ceaușescu, who coincidentally, just returned from the crowning of Khamenei, while learning, dictator-to-dictator, how to suppress a revolution: 1006 killed, though most of them not by the initial "Revolutionary Guards" reprisal but in the semi-civil war that followed.

And that in a country/region without Islamic radicals trying to take over. So far, apart from Israel, no Middle East country has managed to function as a democracy. Turkey, the only Muslim majority who has the faintest chance of joining the European Union, only keeps stuff under control due to the army enforcing a secular state, which the liberal patsies in the West can't take, because authoritarianism is bad and diversity in accepting radical Islam creeping into our homeland is our strength.

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Post by UltraSane »

inglor_cz wrote: post #535
UltraSane wrote: post #486

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sunni Muslims hate the Iranian regime and consider Shia to be heretics

This is not completely true. The Iranian regime gained some credibility in the Sunni world by strongly supporting the Palestinian cause. You can bet that every anti-war demonstration in the West now will have as many Palestinian flags as flags of the Iranian Islamic Republic. Stranger coalitions have been put together by politics...

Oh boy flying the flag of the Islamic Republic in the US would get so much blowback. Everyone knows how incredibly evil it is. It recently killed at least 20,000 protestors to stay in power.

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Post by UltraSane »

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm wrote: post #586
UltraSane wrote: post #486

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sunni Muslims hate the Iranian regime and consider Shia to be heretics

Only people who live on social media believe these extreme views to be true. Most muslims hardly even know the difference or care.

I can assure you all Shia and Sunni are very much aware of their religious differences.
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