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Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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> President Trump announced the Iranian leader's death on social media, saying Khamenei could not avoid U.S. intelligence and surveillance. A source briefed on the U.S.-Israeli attacks on Iran told NPR earlier Saturday that an Israeli airstrike killed Khamenei. This does not seem to me like very strong evidence? Trump just says whatever, and "a source briefed on [the attacks]" just means at least one person in USG th…

If he is not dead - Iran will have to show him - and he will be double tapped.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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If the hard-liners IRGC generals went with him then it might be a good thing for its economy. I have heard some rumors that China was frustrated that IRGC pushed against the deals and were not willing to accept foreign investments in key oil/infra projects because they sit on them -- and that was why China never put down any real investments after signing the deals.

IRGC or whatever succeed next should wise themselves and stop hedging about whatever next deal with US/EU.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What moment would that be? Begging for the Americans to bomb their former country?

At some point you have to decide: if my country is held back by a brutal dictatorial regime where civilians can't hope to topple it, is there anything else to do other than get external help?

Trump isn't there to help. He wants the oil and he wants a puppet dictator. He doesn't care about the people.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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If the United States truly supported regime change there should be a clear next leader favored to succeed the Ayatollah, otherwise this feels more like a favor to oil companies, raising prices temporarily, and a sound bite for political gain, without a care of what happens to the country later. Simply toppling a government seems quite risky without further planning. Just expecting "good" people to fill the leadership…

I'm not discounting that Trump is thinking he could back another Pahlavi and restore the Peacock Throne.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Why didn't he flee? This was a long time coming

It's definitely odd if he was just sitting in his compound. That's a very, well, known place for him. Surely Iran has plenty of secure underground bunkers for leadership to retreat to?

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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The Iranian diaspora around the world is celebrating. Here's the scene in Berlin: https://youtu.be/NSbx_0mtk80?si=MJ_Bfvx8gVd1P1mm They've waited a very long time for this moment!

There would likely be millions of Americans celebrating the murder of their current president, should that happen. It doesn't mean it's reasonable, right, just, or civilized, nor would it indicate that it was a unanimously supported action.

Exactly. This is just western media trying to project some morality to what was an internationally illegal act ... (and perhaps some in the media hoping against hope this publicity would please the dear, glorious leaders of Israel and the US to end the war).

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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post #72

America and Israel are lawless countries. Can you imagine other countries assassinating a foreign head of state and not getting immediate blowback?

My thinking is that, it's good when it works in your favor, but one day it night not, and if it doesn't well what recourse is available then?

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There would likely be millions of Americans celebrating the murder of their current president, should that happen. It doesn't mean it's reasonable, right, just, or civilized, nor would it indicate that it was a unanimously supported action.

But in the case of an actual dictator who murdered thousands of protestors it is reasonable, right, just, and civilized. Shed no tears for the deaths of tyrants. They would happily see you and any other threat to their illegitimate power put six feet under.

Yes our president has only needlessly murdered two innocent US citizens so far. As he has told us countless times, he would like to be a dictator.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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post #72

America and Israel are lawless countries. Can you imagine other countries assassinating a foreign head of state and not getting immediate blowback?

Fine, you got me. We will expedite another billion in aid to Israel to make up for it.
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