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Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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The murderers are the people committing murders. That the victim was himself a ruthless tyrant doesn't change the fact that this is intolerable. The US can't be the only one allowed to bend the rules.

Don't come crying around when the next 9/11 inevitably happens.

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The Iranian diaspora around the world is celebrating. Here's the scene in Berlin: https://youtu.be/NSbx_0mtk80?si=MJ_Bfvx8gVd1P1mm They've waited a very long time for this moment!

Easy to celebrate from a few thousand miles away.

I'm not saying the Ayatollah wasn't a vile criminal, but it's always innocents on the ground who face the brunt of war.

I hope the citizens of Iran can have a peaceful transition and chart a better path for their country, but every single one of America's previous forced regime changes in the region (and across the world) has shown otherwise.

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All the angry people here coming out of the woodwork in this thread. Where were you just a month ago, when the Iranian regime murdered 30k of its own civilians within just a couple of days, during the recent wave of protests? This site is infested with woke moralists and islamists.

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Which Arab countries are better after US intervention? The last place that had a dictator is now ruled by ISIS.

Iran is not an Arab country? Answering a more general question - all countries of former Yugoslavia are better after US intervention. Some Serbs would not agree, but it's on them

In Iran the outcome is yet to be seen, but we have nearby Arab countries where we don't have to guess what happens. Great deflection.

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Yes. 10 million Iranians live outside Iran. They want a normal country again. Later today, I'm sure footage from LA, Toronto, London, Stockholm will be up.

They're not going to have a normal country. The United States under Trump isn't interested in a democratic Iran. They want a dictator they can control.

Not disagreeing with you, but US-controlled dictators have better track record of not killing thousands of protesters or just random people in own populations.

Not perfect option, but still is an improvement even from your positiom.

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In hindsight, from the perspective of the Middle East and Arab world in general: Obama’s tenure was a geopolitical nightmare, while under Trump’s first presidency the Middle East made a big step forward with the Abraham Accords.

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I have no doubt that they didn't like that the regime, which is why they left. But this assassination is no guarantee of change for the better. Far from it.

It’s no guarantee, but it is a good opportunity. I’m half-Persian, and certainly not as closely connected as others, but it’s hard to see this as a bad thing. There’s a possibility I can go visit my family in Iran as a result of this. I haven’t had a good chance for that in like 4 years

The most likely situation is continuity. They just pick a new supreme leader. The second most likely situation is a civil war.

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If true, and given how easy it seemed decapitate the regime I can't see another Ayatollah taking over, hopefully the people take over and institute a real secular democracy based on capitalism.

Why not? If there's one thing that's been proven over the last 20 years it's you can just outlast America.

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I wonder how old the rest of the commentators are. I watched the Shock and Awe campaign. I watched Saddam fall. I remember thinking this is great. Years later, I understand it was a complete folly. Removing Saddam in itself was good but what it did the wider region was not good.

Every new generation in America learns this same lesson the hard way.

You and your children will be paying the bill for this war for the rest of your life.

Oil and defense companies will get richer.

Nothing will change in the middle east.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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I wonder how old the rest of the commentators are. I watched the Shock and Awe campaign. I watched Saddam fall. I remember thinking this is great. Years later, I understand it was a complete folly. Removing Saddam in itself was good but what it did the wider region was not good.

You seriously don’t think Iraq is in a better place today than it has ever been? You miss Saddam?
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