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I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by rootusrootus »

llm_nerd wrote: post #787
rushcar wrote: post #263

"Effective immediately, no contractor, supplier, or partner that does business with the United States military may conduct any commercial activity with Anthropic." This is authoritarian behavior. You're having trouble negotiating a contract, so instead of just canceling it - you basically ban all of F500 from doing business with that firm.

The US is currently an autocracy/idiocracy. A staggeringly corrupt, busted nation. Soon enough the midterms will be effectively cancelled. Americans remain blissfully unaware.

> The US is currently an autocracy/idiocracy. A staggeringly corrupt, busted nation.

We are in a bad place right now, that is for certain.

> Soon enough the midterms will be effectively cancelled.

That would be a pretty big leap from where we are. I think it is important to pay attention, and very important to vote, but there is not a particularly plausible route to cancelling any elections. But they can certainly make enough noise that a lot of people may become confused or scared to vote. So we need to remain laser focused on getting everybody to the polls. Like, this should be priority #1 for every citizen who wants to see democracy continue.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by dragonwriter »

gustavus wrote: post #168
ctoth wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Purpose of a System is WHAT IT DOES!

https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/come-on-obviously-the-purpo...

“If a system is maintained over an extended period and has observed behavioral traits that are consistent within that period, that is, in itself, strong evidence that those behavioral traits are consistent with the purpose for which the system is permitted to exist” is kind of a mouthful, though, and there is value in succinctness.

(Although there is another message, there, too: “the purpose of a system, insofar as it can be said to exist separate from what it actually does, has no weight in justifying the system’s existence or design”.)

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by mh2266 »

labrador wrote: post #544
mh2266 wrote: post #450

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do all of the employees want to move to Europe suddenly? Unless it’s the UK or Ireland, do they speak the local language? If it is the UK or Ireland, do they prefer the weather in California? Do they have children in school or in college locally? Do they have family they’d rather not move 9 time zones away from? Elderly parents they’re taking care of?

They only have to move their headquarters no? Reincorporate in France. Hire Yann LeCun (I like LeCun)

responding to "Visa for all employees." (I know that is a quote from a tweet)

LeCun is starting is own thing, I doubt he wants to drop it? He also lives in NYC afaik, he is a professor at NYU.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by OhioMan2943 »

madeofpalk wrote: post #461
disiplus wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It will also cost openai dearly if they don't communicate clearly, because I for one will internally push to switch from openai (we are on azure actually) to anthropic. Besides that my private account also.

This will not cost OpenAI anything.

Thanks for being the voice of cynical inaction.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by poszlem »

alexchantavy wrote: post #523
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #108

McCarthyism began in 1947, with Truman demanding goverment employees be "screened for loyalty". They wanted to remove anyone who was a member of an "organization" they didn't like. It began with hearings, and then blacklists, and then arrests and prison sentences. It lasted until 1959. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism ) This is the new McCarthyism. Do what the administration says, or you will be blackliste…

Feels a bit like Jack Ma and Alibaba

Yes, this is more accurate. They are trying to rein in big corporations and make them bend the knee before the government.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by tokai »

cyberge99 wrote: post #693
runlaszlorun wrote: post #636

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You pretty much nailed it. I can't even get outraged at any given instance now that the trendline is so staggeringly clear. I can't see anyway this ends well for the US. I say this as both an American and a military veteran.

Never in history has an authoritarian ceded power without massive violence.

The dissolution of the USSR was not massively violent.

Frederick VII of Denmark, an absolute monarch, introduced parliamentarism without any violence or even broad public pressure.

And thats just what I can remember without digging.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by ok_dad »

danavar wrote: post #818
general1465 wrote: post #65

Ukrainians and Russians are experimenting with FPV drones using AI for target acquisition and homing. Not yet economically viable because it is cheaper to give your FPV fiber spool instead of Nvidia Jetson to bypass jamming. When we have first politician blown to bits by autonomous AI FPV there will be sheer panic of every politician in the world to put the genie back into the bottle. It will be too late at that poin…

If one of our main adversaries is building these weapons already, this is actually an argument for developing this technology ourselves.

NO

That would be an argument to build anti-drone technology, not more killbots!

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by poszlem »

hoppoli wrote: post #510

American people: latinamerican here. Maybe it's silly to root for a country in the world hegemony arena. I've usually been partial to the USA over China. Now I'm not rooting for your country anymore. As far as I'm concerned, I'd rather have China being the foremost power, at least they seem to be less keen on invading or heavily strong-arming latinamerica

They are literally doing what China has already done. In what world would China be a better option here?

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by reactordev »

_fat_santa wrote: post #230

The disconnect here for me is, I assume the DoW and Anthropic signed a contract at some point and that contract most likely stipulated that these are the things they can do and these are the things they can't do. I would assume the original terms the DoW is now railing against were in those original contracts that they signed. In that case it looks like the DoW is acting in bad faith here, they signed the original co…

You nailed it.
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