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IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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There are plenty of people on HN who are active in protecting human rights, and this particular incident is a clear example of the amount of work still left to do in the world by those of us who care about each other more than we cling to national identities - especially those national identities with a long track record of human rights violations.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Why was this flagged? Automatically / without review? This is a novel tech story, albeit one without a lot of technical detail. https://www.earshot.ngo/what-we-do/audio-ballistics https://forensic-architecture.org/ https://content.forensic-architecture.org/wp-content/uploads... > Earshot used echolocation to analyze the audio on the recordings in order to arrive at precise estimates of the shooters’ locations. Echolo…

Any posts linked to the IDF committing crimes are automatically flagged on this site (and others). Many bots are at play here.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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There's plenty of live footage of IDF forces targeting international aid workers and journalists. "fun" fact: more journalists died in the Gaza than in every conflict since ww2 combined.

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From where I sit nobody is questioning that the Israelis are supposed to be the good guys in this story. But the stories coming from the region are horrific! Is it true that it is the official policy of the IDF to shoot to kill children who throw stones at them?

Plus because Israel is making serious efforts to choke off all information from the region, I understand that it takes some time before a sober accounting of an incident like this reaches the outside world. To avoid the charged rhetoric I have waited. Yet the point blank executions of humanitarian workers is still shocking to me. Such reckless hate, it must destroy a person.

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I believe religion is a reasonable extension. Some of them explicitly call for murdering unbelievers.

it‘s „some“, not „all“. Religious extremism by definition.

I was talking about religions, not individuals.

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There's plenty of live footage of IDF forces targeting international aid workers and journalists. "fun" fact: more journalists died in the Gaza than in every conflict since ww2 combined.

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Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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You are surprisingly right. I know people who served in IDF and would prefer to have nothing in common with those criminals. Generalizing to them would be wrong. It is not voluntary service, different people are required to serve. But people aside, is IDF as institution rotten? It is not generalization to say „yes“, when such things happen. An institution is an entity with the agency to prevent such things and not on…

There were people in the German army (Wehrmacht) who wanted to have nothing in common with those criminals. Some even tried to kill Hitler and get rid of the regime.

Not the majority though, else the wehrmacht would have done less war crimes.

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No. Your message is. A lot of people commit mortal sin of logical fallacy by extending the responsibility for actions of certain group of people to everyone sharing with them ethnicity or religion. It‘s the stupidity worth of the strongest condemnation given the context. It‘s not jews committing war crimes in Gaza, it‘s zionists. It‘s not muslims or Palestinians planning and executing terrorist attacks, it‘s religiou…

But it's not all zionists committing war crimes in Gaza, it's the IDF. And it's not all IDF members, only some individuals. And its not all of those some individuals, only some of their brain and trigger finger. And it's not all the time, only some of the time. We mustn't generalize.

IDF is an army of Israel, not some unknown militant group.

Israel is a state, as they call "democratic", which elected officials who have control to stop these crimes, but not stopping deliberately.

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