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You wouldn't typically give it access to your own telegram account. You use the telegram bot API to make a bot and the claw gateway only listens to messages from your own account
That's a very different approach, and a bot user is very different from a regular Telegram account, it won't be nearly as "useful", at least in the way I thought openclaw was supposed to work. For example, a bot account cannot initiate conversations, so everyone would need to first message the bot, doesn't that defeat the entire purpose of giving openclaw access to it then? I thought they were supposed to be your ass…
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#152Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents
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There are a few qualitative product experiences that make claw agents unique. One is that it relentlessly strives thoroughly to complete tasks without asking you to micromanage it. The second is that it has personality. The third is that it's artfully constructed so that it feels like it has infinite context. The above may sound purely circumstantial and frivolous. But together it's the first agent that many people w…
Can you give some example for what you use it for? I understand giving a summary of what's waiting in your inbox but what else?
Asking the bank for a second mortgage.
Finding the right high school for your kids.
The possibilities are endless.
/s <- okay
Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents
#154IMO the security pitchforking on OpenClaw is just so overdone. People without consideration for the implications will inevitably get burned, as we saw with the reddit posts "Agentic Coding tool X wiped my hard drive and apologized profusely". I work at a FAANG and every time you try something innovative the "policy people" will climb out of their holes and put random roadblocks in your way, not for the sake of actual…
I think there are two different things at work here that deserve to be separated: 1. The compliance box tickers and bean counters are in the way of innovation and it hurts companies. 2. Claws derive their usefulness mainly from having broad permissions, not only to you local system but also to your accounts via your real identity [1]. Carefulness is very much warranted. [1] People correct me if I'm misguided, but tha…
2. Those that don't have much technical chops, but can get by with a surface level understanding of several areas and then perform "security shamanism" to intimidate others and pull out lots of jargon. They sound authoritative because information security is a fairly esoteric concept and because you can't argue against security like you can't argue against health and safety, the only response is "so you don't care about security?!"
It is my experience that the first are likely to work with you to help figure out how to get your application past the hurdles and challenges you face viewing it as an exciting problem. The second view their job as to "protect the organization" not deliver value. They love playing dressup in security theater and their depth of their understanding doesn't even pose a drowning risk to infants, which they make up for with esoterica, and jargon. They are also unfortunately the one's cooking up "standards" and "security policies" because it allows them to feel like they are doing real work, without the burden of actually knowing what they are doing, and talented people are actually doing something.
Here's a good litmus test to distinguish them, ask their opinion on the CISSP. If it's positive they probably don't know what the heck they are talking about.
Source: A long career operating in multiple domains, quite a few of which have been in security having interacted with both types (and hoping I fall into the first camp rather than the latter)
Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents
#155You can take any AI agent (Codex, Gemini, Claude Code, ollama), run it on a loop with some delay and connect to a messaging platform using Pantalk ( https://github.com/pantalk/pantalk ). In fact, you can use Pantalk buffer to automatically start your agent. You don't need OpenClaw for that. What OpenClaw did is to show the messages that this is in fact possible to do. IMHO nobody is using it yet for meaningful things…
No shade, I think it looks cool and will likely use it, but next time maybe disclose that you’re the founder?
I am not a founder of this though. This is not a business. It is an open-source project.
Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents
#156Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents
#157IMO the security pitchforking on OpenClaw is just so overdone. People without consideration for the implications will inevitably get burned, as we saw with the reddit posts "Agentic Coding tool X wiped my hard drive and apologized profusely". I work at a FAANG and every time you try something innovative the "policy people" will climb out of their holes and put random roadblocks in your way, not for the sake of actual…
my time at a money startup (debit cards) i pushed to legal and security people to change their behaviour from "how can we prevent this" to "how can we enable this - while still staying with the legal and security framework" worked good after months of hard work and day long meetings. then the heads changed and we were back to square one. but for a moment it was glorious of what was possible.
Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents
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> every time you try something innovative the "policy people" will climb out of their holes and put random roadblocks in your way This is so relatable. I remember trying to set up an LLM gateway back in 2023. There were at least 3 different teams that blocked our rollout for months until they worked through their backlog. "We're blocking you, but you’ll have to chase and nag us for us to even consider unblocking you"…
To be fair, the alternative is them having to maintain and continuously check N services that various devs deployed because it felt appropriate in the moment, and then there is a 50/50 chance the service will just sit there unused and introduce new vulnerability vectors. I do know the feeling you're talking about though, and probably a better balance is somewhere in the middle. Just wanted to add that the solution pr…
Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents
#159So now the official name of the LLM agent orchestrator is claw? Interesting.
The Naming Journey
We’ve been through some names.
Clawd was born in November 2025—a playful pun on “Claude” with a claw. It felt perfect until Anthropic’s legal team politely asked us to reconsider. Fair enough.
Moltbot came next, chosen in a chaotic 5am Discord brainstorm with the community. Molting represents growth - lobsters shed their shells to become something bigger. It was meaningful, but it never quite rolled off the tongue.
OpenClaw is where we land. And this time, we did our homework: trademark searches came back clear, domains have been purchased, migration code has been written. The name captures what this project has become:
Open: Open source, open to everyone, community-driven
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#160Who is Andrej Karpathy?
https://karpathy.ai/ PHD in neural networks under Fei-Fei Li, founder of OpenAI, director of AI at Tesla, etc. He knows what he's talking about.
Andrej got famous because of his educational content. He's a smart dude but his research wasn't incredibly unique amongst his cohort at Stanford. He created publicly available educational content around ML that was high quality and got hugely popular. This is what made him a huge name in ML, which he then successfully leveraged into positions of substantial authority in his post-grad career.
He is a very effective communicator and has a lot of people listening to him. And while he is definitely more knowledgeable than most people, I don't think that he is uniquely capable of seeing the future of these technologies.