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Fluorite – A console-grade game engine fully integrated with Flutter

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Re: Fluorite – A console-grade game engine fully integrated with Flutter

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Post by bsimpson »

amelius wrote: post #56

Does it mean it also runs in a browser? Why isn't there a demo?

It does look like Filament has a web target:

https://github.com/google/filament

but if they're targeting embedded systems, maybe they haven't prioritized a public web demo yet. If the bulk of the project is actually in C++, making a web demo probably involves a whole WASM side-quest. I suspect there's a different amount of friction between "I wanna open source this cool project we're doing" and "I wanna build a rendering target we won't use to make the README look better."

Re: Fluorite – A console-grade game engine fully integrated with Flutter

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Post by mmooss »

giobox wrote: post #23
engineer_22 wrote: post #2

How is this related to Toyota? Toyota the car manufacturer?

I'm guessing its used for some of their in-car UIs - unreal engine has found a market (Rivian, Volvo, Ford...) for embedded automotive use now that so many cars display an interactive 3d model to the driver for things like tapping to unlock corresponding door or trunk etc etc. > https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/uses/hmi

Why is a full game engine needed to display a GUI for unlocking a door? There are endless simpler solutions. The apps I use every day don't use game engines (except games).

Re: Fluorite – A console-grade game engine fully integrated with Flutter

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Post by h4ch1 »

robby_w_g wrote: post #53
h4ch1 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Once you vibe code, you don't look at the code. Truly one of the statements of all time. I hope you look at the code, even frontier agents make serious lapses in "judgement".

I loved learning Computer Engineering in college because it de-mystified the black box that was the PC I used growing up. I learned how it worked holistically, from physics to logic gates to processing units to kernels/operating systems to networking/applications. It's sad to think we may be going backwards and introducing more black boxes, our own apps.

I personally don't "hate" LLMs but I see the pattern of their usage as slightly alarming; but at the same time I see the appeal of it.

Offloading your thinking, typing all the garbled thoughts in your head with respect to a problem in a prompt and getting a coherent, tailored solution in almost an instant. A superpowered crutch that helps you coast through tiring work.

That crutch soon transforms into dependence and before you know it you start saying things like "Once you vibe code, you don't look at the code".

Re: Fluorite – A console-grade game engine fully integrated with Flutter

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Post by dsr_ »

PlatoIsADisease wrote: post #34
wasmainiac wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They use this game engine in the 2026 RAV4 Funny how “game engines” are now car parts in 2026. Can I just have an electric car that’s a car and nothing else? Seats, wheels pedals, mirrors, real buttons, no displays just a aux jack. I’d buy it, hell I might even take the risk and pre-order it

Real buttons are more expensive than electronic. Not sure if you care, but people make that mistake more generally. Game engines are probably trivially cheap to produce in 2026. You forget that Toyota sells 10M cars per year. In 3 years thats 30M cars. What does it cost each buyer for the game engine? 30 cents?

I can buy a 104 key mechanical keyboard for under $75 retail. That's 104 switches, 104 labelled button caps, a circuit board, controller and USB interface, with reliability likely much better than any other moving part found on an automobile.

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Post by richardlblair »

munificent wrote: post #32
wasmainiac wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They use this game engine in the 2026 RAV4 Funny how “game engines” are now car parts in 2026. Can I just have an electric car that’s a car and nothing else? Seats, wheels pedals, mirrors, real buttons, no displays just a aux jack. I’d buy it, hell I might even take the risk and pre-order it

> no displays In the US, no. Backup cameras are required by federal law as of 2018. The intent of the law was to reduce the number of children killed by being backed over because the driver couldn't see them behind the car.

Yet everyone drives a truck and are incapable of seeing a child infront of their vehicle.

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Post by rkapsoro »

bobthepanda wrote: post #43
munificent wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> no displays In the US, no. Backup cameras are required by federal law as of 2018. The intent of the law was to reduce the number of children killed by being backed over because the driver couldn't see them behind the car.

It is crazy how many things are downstream of the structural issue where US regulations favor ginormous SUVs and pickups where this is a problem, but if we introduced legislation to fix this we would end up ruining US automakers which have pivoted almost entirely to this segment alone

Wait until you hear what kind of vehicles the CAFE regulatory framework has incentivized US automakers to build.

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Post by Apocryphon »

wasmainiac wrote: post #13
oritron wrote: post #9

It doesn't say Toyota anywhere on the page and they don't have a link to a repo or anything like that, so I was a little confused. But it is from /that/ Toyota (well, a subsidiary that is making 3d software for their displays) and there was a talk at FOSDEM about it: https://fosdem.org/2026/schedule/event/7ZJJWW-fluorite-game-...

> They use this game engine in the 2026 RAV4 Funny how “game engines” are now car parts in 2026. Can I just have an electric car that’s a car and nothing else? Seats, wheels pedals, mirrors, real buttons, no displays just a aux jack. I’d buy it, hell I might even take the risk and pre-order it

I believe Tesla use/d Godot in their automative entertainment-instrumentation system.

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Post by kube-system »

londons_explore wrote: post #62
Aurornis wrote: post #58

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No, it's common to all vehicles. You can't see small children behind a small passenger car, either. Blaming trucks and SUVs for everything is a favorite pasttime of internet comments, but all vehicles benefit from backup cameras and collision detection sensors.

I think the difference is that a 3 year old barely-walking child tends to wander behind moving cars far less often than an 8 year old playing football.

1-4 year olds are the age group most likely to be injured in this type of incident.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5406a2.htm

I suspect older children are more likely to be able to be aware of their surroundings and have better gross motor skills to react.

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Post by gentleman11 »

wasmainiac wrote: post #13
oritron wrote: post #9

It doesn't say Toyota anywhere on the page and they don't have a link to a repo or anything like that, so I was a little confused. But it is from /that/ Toyota (well, a subsidiary that is making 3d software for their displays) and there was a talk at FOSDEM about it: https://fosdem.org/2026/schedule/event/7ZJJWW-fluorite-game-...

> They use this game engine in the 2026 RAV4 Funny how “game engines” are now car parts in 2026. Can I just have an electric car that’s a car and nothing else? Seats, wheels pedals, mirrors, real buttons, no displays just a aux jack. I’d buy it, hell I might even take the risk and pre-order it

The dream. Although a map display would be nice to keep us from needing to fiddle with our phones. And backup camera

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Post by alt227 »

kimbernator wrote: post #48
bobthepanda wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is crazy how many things are downstream of the structural issue where US regulations favor ginormous SUVs and pickups where this is a problem, but if we introduced legislation to fix this we would end up ruining US automakers which have pivoted almost entirely to this segment alone

While I agree with you that the issue is far worse with larger vehicles, I do find that backing up in my wife's 2011 camry (without a backup camera) feels significantly less safe than I feel backing up my 2017 accord with a backup camera. I'm all for fixing the structural issue you are referring to, but I think the requirement for those cameras is sane in an age where the added cost to the manufacturer is miniscule.

Its not just the added cost, its the supply chain. Putting cameras into cars requires processors, ram, all manner of chips and compnents that a car didnt need before.

There was the chip shortage during covid which held car production back becasue the auto makers couldnt source their chips fast enough. I am waiting to see if the current supply issue for ram chips modules will produce a similar effect.

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