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ImJasonH wrote: post #27

Checkpoints sounds like an interesting idea, and one I think we'll benefit from if they can make it useful. I tried a similar(-ish) thing last year at https://github.com/imjasonh/cnotes (a Claude hook to write conversations to git notes) but ended up not getting much out of it. Making it integrated into the experience would have helped, I had a chrome extension to display it in the GitHub UI but even then just stoppe…

What are they actually “checkpointing”? Git already “checkpoints” your code and they can’t time travel your LLM conversation.

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Post by delusional »

elif wrote: post #391
toraway wrote: post #374

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What kind of barrier/moat/network effects/etc would prevent someone with a Claude Code subscription from replicating whatever "innovation" is so uniquely valuable here? It's somewhat strange to regularly read HN threads confidently asserting that the cost of software is trending towards zero and software engineering as a profession is dead, but also that an AI dev tool that basically hooks onto Git/Claude Code/termin…

The same moat that git had on svn, a better mental paradigm over the same fundamental system, more suited to how SWE changed over a decade.

Git doesn't have a moat. Git isn't commercial software, and doesn't need to strong arm you into accepting bad license terms.

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Post by ashtom »

chenmx wrote: post #393

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I'd bet that less people had their source code on git in 2008 than the number of developers using the various coding agents today. And the open-source project that we published today hooks into the existing workflow for those developers, in Claude Code and in Gemini CLI. Time will tell the rest. We will publish regular updates and you can judge us on those results.

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Post by jwbron »

toraway wrote: post #374
straydusk wrote: post #239

> Checkpoints are a new primitive that automatically captures agent context as first-class, versioned data in Git. When you commit code generated by an agent, Checkpoints capture the full session alongside the commit: the transcript, prompts, files touched, token usage, tool calls and more. This thread is extremely negative - if you can't see the value in this, I don't know what to tell you.

What kind of barrier/moat/network effects/etc would prevent someone with a Claude Code subscription from replicating whatever "innovation" is so uniquely valuable here? It's somewhat strange to regularly read HN threads confidently asserting that the cost of software is trending towards zero and software engineering as a profession is dead, but also that an AI dev tool that basically hooks onto Git/Claude Code/termin…

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Post by Spivak »

bastawhiz wrote: post #400
direwolf20 wrote: post #270

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99% of projects the take applies to are massive flops. The Dropbox weekend take is almost always correct.

Yeah I guess why would anyone build anything, 99% of projects are flops.

I mean a dev tool that's seemingly failing to resonate with developers as to why they would pay for this is a pretty good way to tell if it's going to fall in the 1%.

The Dropbox take was wrong because they didn't understand the market for the product. This time the people commenting are the target audience. You even get the secondary way this product will lose even if turns out to be a good idea, existing git forges won't want to lose users and so will standardize and support attaching metadata to commits.

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Post by buster »

konaraddi wrote: post #250
straydusk wrote: post #239

> Checkpoints are a new primitive that automatically captures agent context as first-class, versioned data in Git. When you commit code generated by an agent, Checkpoints capture the full session alongside the commit: the transcript, prompts, files touched, token usage, tool calls and more. This thread is extremely negative - if you can't see the value in this, I don't know what to tell you.

100% agree because there’s a lot of value in understanding how and why past code was written. It can be used to make better decisions faster around code to write in the future. E.g., if you’ve ever wondered why code was written in a particular way X instead of Y then you’ll have the context to understand whether X is still relevant or if Y can be adopted. E.g., easier to prompt AI to write the next commit when it kno…

But that's not what is in the whole context. The whole context contains a lot of noise and false "thoughts". What the AI needs to do is to document the software project in an efficient manner without duplication. That's not what this tool is doing. I question the value in storing all the crap in git.

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Post by N_Lens »

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #396
toraway wrote: post #374

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What kind of barrier/moat/network effects/etc would prevent someone with a Claude Code subscription from replicating whatever "innovation" is so uniquely valuable here? It's somewhat strange to regularly read HN threads confidently asserting that the cost of software is trending towards zero and software engineering as a profession is dead, but also that an AI dev tool that basically hooks onto Git/Claude Code/termin…

> HN threads confidently asserting I have never seen any thread that unanimously asserts this. Even if they do, having HN/reddit asserting something as evidence is wrong way to look at things.

HN is full of AI agents hype posts. I am yet to see legitimate and functional agent orchestration solving real problems, whether it is scale or velocity.

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Post by necovek »

chenmx wrote: post #393

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I do not think that's how it worked out for GitHub: I'd rather say that Git (as complex as it was to use) succeeded due to becoming the basis of GitHub (with simple, clean interface).

At the time, there were multiple code hosting platforms like Sourceforge, FSF Savannah, Canonical's Launchpad.net, and most development was still done in SVN, with Git, Bazaar, Mercurial the upstart "distributed" VCSes with similar penetration.

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Post by ashtom »

lysace wrote: post #264
lysace wrote: post #237

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Thanks for the fact check :). The Ximian thing I wrote from obviously faulty memory (I now wonder if it was influenced by early 2000s Miguel's bonobo obsession), the rest from various google searches. Should have gone deeper.

No, I was actually correct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ximian Ximian, Inc. (previously called Helix Code and originally named International Gnome Support) was an American company that developed, sold and supported application software for Linux and Unix based on the GNOME platform. It was founded by Miguel de Icaza and Nat Friedman in 1999 and was bought by Novell in 2003 ... Novell was in turn acquired by The Att…

Didn't say you were wrong. It was just missing the Xamarin step in the sequence of companies, and arguably Xamarin was the bigger milestone than Ximian.
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