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Ex-GitHub CEO launches a new developer platform for AI agents

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Re: Ex-GitHub CEO launches a new developer platform for AI agents

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Post by Klonoar »

nialv7 wrote: post #254
straydusk wrote: post #239

> Checkpoints are a new primitive that automatically captures agent context as first-class, versioned data in Git. When you commit code generated by an agent, Checkpoints capture the full session alongside the commit: the transcript, prompts, files touched, token usage, tool calls and more. This thread is extremely negative - if you can't see the value in this, I don't know what to tell you.

Sure... you `git add` the context text generated by AI and `git commit` it, could be useful. Is that worth 60 million?

It’s good to know that a few decades later the same generic Dropbox-weekend take can be made.

Re: Ex-GitHub CEO launches a new developer platform for AI agents

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Post by skybrian »

raphaelmolly8 wrote: post #57

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I'm pretty happy using Shelley, which stores agent conversations in a Sqlite database. I can refer to a previous conversation and the agent can easily do a Sqlite query to see what happened.

Although this isn't stored in git, I don't see any particularly need to since it's too detailed. Instead I have the agent write design docs (as an alternative to plan mode) and check those in. That seems like enough.

Re: Ex-GitHub CEO launches a new developer platform for AI agents

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Post by tjkatr »

Klonoar wrote: post #261
nialv7 wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure... you `git add` the context text generated by AI and `git commit` it, could be useful. Is that worth 60 million?

It’s good to know that a few decades later the same generic Dropbox-weekend take can be made.

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Re: Ex-GitHub CEO launches a new developer platform for AI agents

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Post by lysace »

lysace wrote: post #237
ashtom wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chris was also CEO from 2008 to 2012. Tom had 2012 to 2014. Nat's company Xamarin was acquired by Microsoft in 2016. HockeyApp wasn't A/B testing, but a platform for iPhone, Mac, Android, and Windows Phone developers to distribute their beta version (like what TestFlight is today to the App Store), collect crash reports (like what Sentry is today), user feedback, and basic analytics for developers.

Thanks for the fact check :). The Ximian thing I wrote from obviously faulty memory (I now wonder if it was influenced by early 2000s Miguel's bonobo obsession), the rest from various google searches. Should have gone deeper.

No, I was actually correct.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ximian

Ximian, Inc. (previously called Helix Code and originally named International Gnome Support) was an American company that developed, sold and supported application software for Linux and Unix based on the GNOME platform. It was founded by Miguel de Icaza and Nat Friedman in 1999 and was bought by Novell in 2003

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Novell was in turn acquired by The Attachmate Group on 27 April 2011. In May 2011 The Attachmate Group laid off all its US staff working on Mono, which included De Icaza. He and Friedman then founded Xamarin on 16 May 2011, a new company to continue the development of Mono. On 24 February 2016, Microsoft announced that they had signed an agreement to acquire Xamarin.

Re: Ex-GitHub CEO launches a new developer platform for AI agents

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Post by dgunay »

wild_egg wrote: post #171
giancarlostoro wrote: post #8

> Spec-driven development is becoming the primary driver of code generation. This sounds like my current "phase" of AI coding. I have had so many project ideas for years that I can just spec out, everything I've thought about, all the little ideas and details, things I only had time to think about, never implement. I then feed it to Claude, and watch it meet my every specification, I can then test it, note any bugs,…

Task management is fundamentally straightforward and yet workflow specific enough that I recommend everyone just spend a few hours building their own tools at this point. Beads is a nightmare.

I started off with the original beads and it was definitely a nightmare. However I would recommend using https://github.com/Dicklesworthstone/beads_rust - it's a much simpler implementation of the same concept, without all the random extra stuff thrown on to support Gas Town.

Re: Ex-GitHub CEO launches a new developer platform for AI agents

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Post by tjkatr »

straydusk wrote: post #239

> Checkpoints are a new primitive that automatically captures agent context as first-class, versioned data in Git. When you commit code generated by an agent, Checkpoints capture the full session alongside the commit: the transcript, prompts, files touched, token usage, tool calls and more. This thread is extremely negative - if you can't see the value in this, I don't know what to tell you.

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Re: Ex-GitHub CEO launches a new developer platform for AI agents

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Post by thway15269037 »

wahnfrieden wrote: post #238
nickorlow wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've found that the effort required to get a good outcome is roughly equal to the effort of doing it myself. If I do it myself, I get the added bonus of actually understanding what the code is doing, which makes debugging any issues down the line way easier. It's also in generally better for teams b/c you can ask the 'owner' of a part of the codebase what their intuition is on an issue (trying to have AI fill in for…

I didn’t say essentially all software is vibe coded. You already agree with me that it’s very good at some range of common tasks.

There are other things very good "at some range of common tasks". For example, stackoverflow snippets, libraries, bash spaghetti and even some no-code/low-code tools.

Re: Ex-GitHub CEO launches a new developer platform for AI agents

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Post by direwolf20 »

Klonoar wrote: post #261
nialv7 wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure... you `git add` the context text generated by AI and `git commit` it, could be useful. Is that worth 60 million?

It’s good to know that a few decades later the same generic Dropbox-weekend take can be made.

99% of projects the take applies to are massive flops. The Dropbox weekend take is almost always correct.
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