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Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by jsbisviewtiful »

BowBun wrote: post #276
cheeseomlit wrote: post #237

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>Most people use Discord for its community features and being able to join massive servers with 1+ million people Do they? Personally I've never willingly joined one of those massive servers, only when forced to by some projects that refuse to host their content anywhere else- and its always a terrible experience. 99% of my discord usage is just a group chat with my IRL friends, so when looking for alternative I dont…

They have >200 million DAUs and guesses say they have >10K servers with >10K users. Assumptions from a tech crowd who were used to IRC should be taken with a grain of salt. Now if we're just looking for alternatives for ourselves, cool. But I think the reality is that most normal users do fully lean into the social aspects of Discord. A server like Marvel Rivals has literally millions of users. Players join that disc…

> Do they? Personally I've never willingly joined one of those massive servers

Large community servers are plentiful. I'm in a few that are definitely several hundred if not a few thousand users. It's pretty common to have a public server for cities too.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by miladyincontrol »

For all people talk negatively about friction, honestly I see it in many cases as a feature, not a flaw.

Far too many flaws of discord, reddit, and other "socialmedia commons" come from an absolute lack of friction. People seeing it as almost a right to participate wherever, whenever, without ever lurking more and learning a community's culture, norms, or etiquette.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by pseudalopex »

jsbisviewtiful wrote: post #391
BowBun wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have >200 million DAUs and guesses say they have >10K servers with >10K users. Assumptions from a tech crowd who were used to IRC should be taken with a grain of salt. Now if we're just looking for alternatives for ourselves, cool. But I think the reality is that most normal users do fully lean into the social aspects of Discord. A server like Marvel Rivals has literally millions of users. Players join that disc…

> Do they? Personally I've never willingly joined one of those massive servers Large community servers are plentiful. I'm in a few that are definitely several hundred if not a few thousand users. It's pretty common to have a public server for cities too.

The question was 1+ million people. Any alternative in the article but Signal could handle 100s or 1000s to my knowledge.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by crabmusket »

trueno wrote: post #178
crabmusket wrote: post #91

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> have a toggle for normal chat chronology/presentation It does. https://zulip.com/help/general-chat-channels But even without that, in a normal threaded channel, you can see all messages in all topics chronologically. IIRC that's the default view when you click a channel in the sidebar. Here's an example: https://chat.zulip.org/#narrow/channel/138-user-questions the messages are grouped into runs of the same topic,…

mother of god. its perhaps time to revisit zulip. now if I could perhaps disable the topic group heading this would make perfect sense and effectively be a chatroom.

Yeah even as someone who prefers topics, I find the group header quite heavyweight.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by dtdynasty »

spike021 wrote: post #274
haunter wrote: post #104

Discord became popular because it was free group/team voice chat. Mumble, Ventrilo, Teamspeak all needed servers/clients, paid hosting etc. Discord is text chat (with history) + voice chat in one place. If you want an alternative it needs to do this both first and foremost. People saying IRC are trolling or never used Discord.

Discord for sure has way more features and use than IRC. On the other hand, IRC lets me /ignore a user and my client renders channels without ever showing a hint of that user's existence. Meanwhile, in Discord both ignoring and blocking a user still shows a "3 ignored messages" or "1 blocked message", etc. There are always going to be pros and cons to one or the other.

I actually learned recently that you can ignore users in discord as well.

https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/28084948873623...

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by Groxx »

palata wrote: post #69
aaravchen wrote: post #18

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This has been brought up on HN before, and people smarter than me identified that this view is about 10 years out of date. Yes it's a bunch of XEPs, but there are standardized "sets" apparently that include all of the things any other similar tools do. It sounds like only very niche old/minimal XMPP clients don't support encryption by default for example, and virtually all servers have supported it for many years.

> Yes it's a bunch of XEPs, but there are standardized "sets" apparently If the answer to "it's confusing" is "there are apparently standardised sets", it sounds like it is, indeed, confusing :-).

It's overwhelmingly more of an outsider talking point than an actual issue in practice. There's a category of people that just says any extensible protocol must fundamentally have massive amounts of incompatibility, and brings it up every chance they can... and while that is technically always possible, it only happens in practice if clients diverge greatly. XMPP clients mostly work together much better than Matrix clients, from what I've experienced, as long as they've been actively developed at some point in the last decade. Which is by far most clients in use.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by danypell »

I built FaceFlow.com 16 years and it's a lot like Discord. Used by many people. Web-based for now but hey with Claude / Codex 5.3 I may as well launch desktop/iOS/Android by next week if Web isn't enough.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by spike021 »

dtdynasty wrote: post #396
spike021 wrote: post #274

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Discord for sure has way more features and use than IRC. On the other hand, IRC lets me /ignore a user and my client renders channels without ever showing a hint of that user's existence. Meanwhile, in Discord both ignoring and blocking a user still shows a "3 ignored messages" or "1 blocked message", etc. There are always going to be pros and cons to one or the other.

I actually learned recently that you can ignore users in discord as well. https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/28084948873623...

as i said in my comment, ignoring a user still shows they've put messages in a channel.
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