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Source?
whatsapp is facebook; do you need any other "source"? i'd be surprised if they didn't have straight out government logins...
Discord Alternatives, Ranked
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That's privacy for someone who cares deeply and will get it somehow no matter what, not default zero-effort privacy for the ignorant. (Which WhatsApp does pretty well for example.)
> default zero-effort privacy for the ignorant. (Which WhatsApp does pretty well for example.) Can you elaborate on what default zero-effort privacy for the ignorant WhatsApp offers, that Signal does not?
Take Telegram for example, where only explicitly 'secret' chats are e2ee, you have to go out of your way, it's not the easy path.
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#173I'm building an open-source, high-quality chat app called Inline. It aims to solve issues with Slack and Discord for work communication. Happy to answer any questions. https://github.com/inline-chat/inline https://inline.chat
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This has been brought up on HN before, and people smarter than me identified that this view is about 10 years out of date. Yes it's a bunch of XEPs, but there are standardized "sets" apparently that include all of the things any other similar tools do. It sounds like only very niche old/minimal XMPP clients don't support encryption by default for example, and virtually all servers have supported it for many years.
Is there a recommended or "blessed" server and client combo for someone who just wants to migrate their friends off discord? The main site https://xmpp.org/software/ lists lots of different options but I have no idea what core/advanced means and comparing all of these would take ages.
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I am in favor of kicking children, teenagers, and people with vulnerable minds and mental illnesses off the Internet. Then you won't have to make the decisions that most people suffer from.
Please don't kick people with mental illnesses off the internet. I barely have anyone to talk to as it is
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Yeah it’s so odd that none of the open-source alternatives have this feature. No video calls are not an option. We need video/voice rooms!
You might be interested in https://kloak.app I believe. It's a privacy-first alternative. It's still in early alpha days, but have most of the things set up. Oh, and we’ve got voice channels with screen sharing in beta too.
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The target user group for Discord actually is children and teens. Look at that UI and how it‘s trying to sell you „swag“. Then, Discord is not uncomplicated. From „Servers“ not being servers, multiple account onboarding levels, to what happens when Discord believes you are a bot or are using a blacklisted IP.
I don't think I'm active on any "server" that is predominately used by Teens. I believe you underestimate the average age.
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my team tried it for a couple weeks. couldn't stand the threaded "only see what's important" style of chat. it's undoubtedly our least fav part of microsoft teams---the channels and the threads, we all operate in the chat tab and the channels tab has been relegated to announcement posts no one reads. huge shame zulip can't just like... have a toggle for normal chat chronology/presentation. some people have gone way t…
> have a toggle for normal chat chronology/presentation It does. https://zulip.com/help/general-chat-channels But even without that, in a normal threaded channel, you can see all messages in all topics chronologically. IIRC that's the default view when you click a channel in the sidebar. Here's an example: https://chat.zulip.org/#narrow/channel/138-user-questions the messages are grouped into runs of the same topic,…
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#179I really do not like discourse. Mail lists are better because you stay in the loop, plus Gmail is better for searching emails than discourse searches itself.
How do you search messages from before you joined the mailing list?
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#180Ironically, Signal actually ranks a -1 for privacy in this use. Presumably you're already using Signal and getting mainstream contacts to start using it too. You probably have a basic profile that at least includes your real name, and might also have your picture. Maybe you're even one of the 7 people in the world that use the Stories feature in it. Well good news, now all of that is also unconditionally available to…
I dislike Signal as I need to identify myself through info that is protected. Like a phone number for example. Not a privacy app in my opinion. Sure, might be good for some use cases... but overall there are better solutions.