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Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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post #96

Email + IRC (there are daemons that support chat history). Bouncers exist. Logging. This should be standard for OSS projects, not some private, unsearchable, data-mining platform. This is what happens when we reach for convenience over openness.

In my experience with the few communities I've dabbled in, it's more reaching for popularity than convenience. If I indulged myself with some grumpiness I'd say that's another source of enshitification that's rarely mentionned.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

#103

Most Discord alternatives fail not on tech, but on polish. Signal → private but bad for communities Matrix → flexible but rough UX XMPP → powerful but fragmented Discord → centralized but frictionless Users pick frictionless every time. We probably don’t need new apps or protocols we need a client that works well.

Is it just element or matrix.org, but it feels so slow to me?

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

#104
Discord became popular because it was free group/team voice chat. Mumble, Ventrilo, Teamspeak all needed servers/clients, paid hosting etc.

Discord is text chat (with history) + voice chat in one place. If you want an alternative it needs to do this both first and foremost.

People saying IRC are trolling or never used Discord.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

#105
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

isn't IRC only Text? What about the Voice Chat?

IRC does not even have offline messages, unless you pay / host a bouncer. Which you first have to know about. I'm not sure if any client has solve this, but what about image / video / file hosting? You can't just drag 'n drop a image into a chat. You have to host it on a 3rd party site and link it. I do wonder how server management is now adays. In Discord you can host your own server with a few clicks and make it ea…

First and foremost, IRC is a protocol. Everything you name here are mostly issues that are not a protocol problem, but client and service issues which can be solved.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

#107

Discord became popular because it was free group/team voice chat. Mumble, Ventrilo, Teamspeak all needed servers/clients, paid hosting etc. Discord is text chat (with history) + voice chat in one place. If you want an alternative it needs to do this both first and foremost. People saying IRC are trolling or never used Discord.

It's also images, videos and message boards.

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#109

Ironically, Signal actually ranks a -1 for privacy in this use. Presumably you're already using Signal and getting mainstream contacts to start using it too. You probably have a basic profile that at least includes your real name, and might also have your picture. Maybe you're even one of the 7 people in the world that use the Stories feature in it. Well good news, now all of that is also unconditionally available to…

How could Signal be considered privacy-conscious ? The first thing they do is ask for your phone number.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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post #58

I'm sad to see XMPP missing from this list. I wonder if the author was simply unaware of it or simply ignored it. IMO XMPP is technically superior to Matrix. It "only" needs a cross-platform high-quality, branded app àla Element. There's underlying protocol support for all the features: video/audio calls, group calls, threads and reactions. Maybe missing are custom emoji (I think?) and channel grouping (which is stil…

Xmpp clients are completely awful on Linux desktop, and can't do voice and video chat correctly with clients on Android like Conversations

You can with dino. I wish I had the time to work on getting A/V calls back in gajim. It could be worth asking an NLNet grant for that…

https://dino.im/

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