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WhatsApp sends a copy of all your messages to ICE. Signal doesn't.
Source?
whatsapp is facebook; do you need any other "source"?
i'd be surprised if they didn't have straight out government logins...
Discord Alternatives, Ranked
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#162Ironically, Signal actually ranks a -1 for privacy in this use. Presumably you're already using Signal and getting mainstream contacts to start using it too. You probably have a basic profile that at least includes your real name, and might also have your picture. Maybe you're even one of the 7 people in the world that use the Stories feature in it. Well good news, now all of that is also unconditionally available to…
I dislike Signal as I need to identify myself through info that is protected. Like a phone number for example. Not a privacy app in my opinion. Sure, might be good for some use cases... but overall there are better solutions.
Why the downvotes? A messaging app that requires a personally identifiable token is inherently not good for privacy…
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#163Ironically, Signal actually ranks a -1 for privacy in this use. Presumably you're already using Signal and getting mainstream contacts to start using it too. You probably have a basic profile that at least includes your real name, and might also have your picture. Maybe you're even one of the 7 people in the world that use the Stories feature in it. Well good news, now all of that is also unconditionally available to…
You can have multiple instances of signal on a mobile device, and you can use VoiP or eSIMs to register. Signal with an online persona revealing no identifying information, registered to a cash purchased eSIM on an ungoogled android is as good as your getting. Why do you think so many jurisdictions are trying to ban both GrapheneOS and Signal.
In europe you need identification to buy a sim or esim.
https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/9ziqfi/european_cou...
Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked
#164I know people frown upon it but I think XMPP is the way to go. It "just" require a good discord like client with voice and screen share.
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#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's because you're not in the target market. And I guess not interested in the space. Discord's key value proposition is that it's a trusted zero friction voice chat with a lot of features. The workflow that made it huge: organizer creates a server for a game, creates a short link for a voice channel. The organizer then goes to play their game, shares the short link with their group. The members click the link, wr…
I agree with the previous commenter - I hate Discord for all the same reasons. But you said: "That's because you're not in the target market. And I guess not interested in the space." and this is the bit that frustrates me... I must be the target market because several services I use try to get you to use Discord for support, and some will only provide support via Discord.
I get all the hate, I just wanted to explain why it's also loved.
It's a great, great tool and I really wish they'd offer a business tier that opts out of all the data leak features.
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#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I just wish there was some kind of ACID test suite for XMPP or something else to reproducibly validate spec compliance. Maybe a test server or similar as a reference implementation. This way client or server maintainers would have to run their programs against the official test server to increase their compliance stats. This is exactly what the Compliance Suits are for, and the XMPP Software Fundation is taking car…
My point is about why clients like AstraChat can be listed with "Advanced" in the overview, but then in the details page it has nothing. See https://xmpp.org/software/astrachat-xmpp-client/ This should not be allowed.
Because the declaration file of the clients says that it is actually compatible with everything in this section.
You can't run scripts on all the XEPs declared, some of them are purely redaction or bound to specific UI/UX behaviors. This is based on trust that the developers actually implemented things as stated.
Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked
#167Discord became popular because it was free group/team voice chat. Mumble, Ventrilo, Teamspeak all needed servers/clients, paid hosting etc. Discord is text chat (with history) + voice chat in one place. If you want an alternative it needs to do this both first and foremost. People saying IRC are trolling or never used Discord.
It also needs users, the network effect aka lock in is gigantic with discord, I don't see discord ever going away. Or anything else gaining traction.
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#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can have multiple instances of signal on a mobile device, and you can use VoiP or eSIMs to register. Signal with an online persona revealing no identifying information, registered to a cash purchased eSIM on an ungoogled android is as good as your getting. Why do you think so many jurisdictions are trying to ban both GrapheneOS and Signal.
In europe you need identification to buy a sim or esim. https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/9ziqfi/european_cou...
Didn't know that the UK, the Netherlands, or Portugal aren't part of Europe...
Also, you can buy phone numbers with monero for 0.08$ https://smspool.net.
Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked
#169Ironically, Signal actually ranks a -1 for privacy in this use. Presumably you're already using Signal and getting mainstream contacts to start using it too. You probably have a basic profile that at least includes your real name, and might also have your picture. Maybe you're even one of the 7 people in the world that use the Stories feature in it. Well good news, now all of that is also unconditionally available to…
How could Signal be considered privacy-conscious ? The first thing they do is ask for your phone number.
Give Signal a burner phone.
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can have multiple instances of signal on a mobile device, and you can use VoiP or eSIMs to register. Signal with an online persona revealing no identifying information, registered to a cash purchased eSIM on an ungoogled android is as good as your getting. Why do you think so many jurisdictions are trying to ban both GrapheneOS and Signal.
In europe you need identification to buy a sim or esim. https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/9ziqfi/european_cou...
To be clear, your linked map shows that it is not a blanket "in europe". Around 20 European countries don't need an ID to get a SIM card and 30 do.
For those learning about political nuance against the backdrop of current propaganda, it is worth noting that the UK and Ireland do not require registration and that the populous are significantly politically opposed to it; and then Russia requires registration and has one of the most linked up registrations.