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Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by craftkiller »

bravetraveler wrote: post #138
craftkiller wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Cheapshot: Good Old Games (as long as our proprietary software functions) False. That's literally the point of GOG. You can download the games directly from their website, install them, and run them without running any GOG software. GOG could vanish tomorrow and you'd still be able to play every game you purchased, as long as you backed up their installers somewhere.

Like I said, cheap: I didn't think much about it. I've enjoyed downloading those archives. I've really enjoyed using Heroic instead. I appreciate the first party reference and backup, but I'll stick with this for the consolidation.

That's not what "cheapshot" means: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cheap%20shot

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by bravetraveler »

craftkiller wrote: post #141
bravetraveler wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like I said, cheap: I didn't think much about it. I've enjoyed downloading those archives. I've really enjoyed using Heroic instead. I appreciate the first party reference and backup, but I'll stick with this for the consolidation.

That's not what "cheapshot" means: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cheap%20shot

What would you prefer? I couldn't edit it now if I wanted. Is GOG, the business entity, here to defend itself? Set me straight? If so, I'd like to first express my appreciation for their efforts. Then... repeat my critical statements to them shortly after.

Oh to be private/not beholden to shareholders, open to build for a ~small~ growing target [that has largely managed without them]. I'm envious, really. We're looking at the next Valve, I tell you! All it will take is the one hire for this listing, a penguin, Bellevue, and Codeweavers.

Minus sarcasm: I understand their interests in this and how it might even be a net benefit for all. I won't say it will be free, Heroic users paying the toll. Oops, there I go being loose with words again.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by seethishat »

lifetimerubyist wrote: post #117
orbital-decay wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most gamers don't give a shit about openness. A much more likely outcome is "big tech" following the numbers and slowly making Linux unusable by using EEE or any other tactic under the pretense of usefulness.

Gamers generally game on PC because they like building their system. Otherwise they would use a PS5 Pro or whatever. The PC is an “open” platform in that you can buy and choose your own hardware. Intel vs AMD vs Nvidia, Seagate vs Western Digital, etc…. Using open software isn’t really more than a few steps from that. Being able to pick how your system works and customizing it to your liking is basically the software…

Many game mods and community maps, etc. are only available on PC. You can play the vanilla version on console, but not the mods you watch Twitch streamers playing. So, it's not b/c they like building PCs, it's because they want to play the mods with their friends.

I am speaking as an old gamer. I no longer play.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by paride5745 »

tmtvl wrote: post #105
EspadaV9 wrote: post #7

No. Please don't. Contribute to something like Heroic Launcher instead. Don't create something new just for GOG. Help make the existing tools better. It'll mean GOG has to do less work, and the programs people are already using will get better. Or even just sponsor Heroic so they can send more time we can working on it themselves.

GNU/Linux gamers are always decrying GOG, saying they won't buy stuff from them because Galaxy doesn't run on GNU/Linux, now we're getting people saying GOG porting Galaxy to GNU/Linux is bad!? By Taranis, GOG just can't get a break, can they?

Yep, luckily they represent a very small, albeit loud, minority of Linux users.

The vast majority of Linux users are very happy to get an official GOG Galaxy for Linux. I hope they will plug into Proton and collaborate with Valve, but we really need official tools and brands on Linux for common users to feel comfortable enough to come over.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by mr-ron »

lifetimerubyist wrote: post #117
orbital-decay wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most gamers don't give a shit about openness. A much more likely outcome is "big tech" following the numbers and slowly making Linux unusable by using EEE or any other tactic under the pretense of usefulness.

Gamers generally game on PC because they like building their system. Otherwise they would use a PS5 Pro or whatever. The PC is an “open” platform in that you can buy and choose your own hardware. Intel vs AMD vs Nvidia, Seagate vs Western Digital, etc…. Using open software isn’t really more than a few steps from that. Being able to pick how your system works and customizing it to your liking is basically the software…

I love gaming on pc because of the wealth of games, keyboard mouse setup, and less $ overall.

I hate building it and messing w hardware. Its a a necessity pain for me

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by isbvhodnvemrwvn »

plqbfbv wrote: post #72
thrownawaysz wrote: post #53

>Competitive Salary – We ensure fair and attractive compensation that reflects your skills and experience: 18 000 - 27 000 PLN/month I know it's eastern Europe but that's $5000-7500 a month, barely $90k a year. It sounds like a solo job too so a lot of responsibility for this salary.

That's in the 50k EUR - 77k EUR range which is senior-level pay in EU. Add to that it includes pension, tax prepayments and health insurance. They also seem to offer lots of perks in the office. If you account for the fact that Poland is generally less expensive than the average and that the average monthly living cost is ~900 EUR ( https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?cou... ), even the 50k lower…

It doesn't compete with the better local companies though. It's fairly in the middle of the pack.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by graynk »

t0bia_s wrote: post #130

One of reasons why I buy games exclusively on GoG is clientlessness. I don't like when clients messing with game updates, because of modding incompatibility. Unfortunately modding is reason, why switch to linux for gaming is not easy.

That's also one thing Galaxy gets right. You can turn off auto-updates and that won't stop you from playing the game (unlike with Steam, which will just replace your "play" button with "update"). They also support rolling back updates, but I never tried that and I'm not entirely sure if this works for every game, or if this is something a game developer has to actively support.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by alturp »

lionkor wrote: post #129
alturp wrote: post #116

The so-called fragmentation people criticizes in the comments is also a strength for free software systems in long term.

Fragmentation means competition, and competition is usually good as long as it lasts

exactly and in case of free software it is not even competition with financial incentive and (not always) so many projects can live long without a good output because of this. i think many people do not appreciate the usefulness of 'non-useful' things

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by orbital-decay »

lifetimerubyist wrote: post #117
orbital-decay wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most gamers don't give a shit about openness. A much more likely outcome is "big tech" following the numbers and slowly making Linux unusable by using EEE or any other tactic under the pretense of usefulness.

Gamers generally game on PC because they like building their system. Otherwise they would use a PS5 Pro or whatever. The PC is an “open” platform in that you can buy and choose your own hardware. Intel vs AMD vs Nvidia, Seagate vs Western Digital, etc…. Using open software isn’t really more than a few steps from that. Being able to pick how your system works and customizing it to your liking is basically the software…

>This will never happen because projects will just be forked.

There's a chasm of difference between a technical fork and a meaningful fork. The entire point of EEE is relying on usefulness and convenience combined with network effects to make the entire system restricted and control it. Sure, you can go and fork anything you want - nobody stops you, technically. But you're getting the rug pulled from under your feet in any case.

You can witness the early stage of subversion with very useful software (without any hint of irony) made by people who "left" Microsoft: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46784572

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