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Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by mort96 »

delaminator wrote: post #36

I always make sure to not use the GoG downloader just download the game. I don't need a client with your branding all over it, that has socials and my library and all engagement bait like that. I figure it's one step away from putting the DRM back on so you have to use the launcher to get a game from GOG. Just let me buy games and then shut up.

I like Steam as a user. It syncs game saves between computers. It takes care of game updates. It has a decent launcher UI that I use on my living room computer so that I can launch games using an xbox controller. It makes Windows games work without any fuss. And when I play with friends, it lets me join friends' games without having to deal with in-game lobby systems. It lets me show FPS counters and system info in a unified way even in games without built-in support for that stuff. That is all stuff I want.

Game launchers are a good idea that lots of people want. A good game launcher needs both deep game integration and an online account, to provide save game syncing, joining friends and updating games. So far, it's mainly Steam which has been able to do this on PC. If GoG wants to compete, which it does, it only makes sense for it to provide the same.

It's not some evil scheme.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by mort96 »

thrownawaysz wrote: post #53

>Competitive Salary – We ensure fair and attractive compensation that reflects your skills and experience: 18 000 - 27 000 PLN/month I know it's eastern Europe but that's $5000-7500 a month, barely $90k a year. It sounds like a solo job too so a lot of responsibility for this salary.

$90k a year before tax is a very very good salary in Norway, and even a decent developer salary. It's much better in eastern Europe.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by emsign »

mschuster91 wrote: post #93
emsign wrote: post #14

I'm very hopeful that Linux gaming will save the open PC desktop despite big tech is coming to destroy it. Or at least keep PCs alive for another decade. Gamers are still a huge factor as hardware customers. GOG creating a Linux launcher and Steam Box with SteamOS coming out soon should benefit PC users in general not just gamers since Microslop sees Windows like a social experiment where they can test AI on unsuspec…

> Gamers are still a huge factor as hardware customers. They are but AI has fried the markets for RAM, SSDs and GPUs. Everything has gotten ridiculously expensive ever since the wash trading and the 100s of billions of $ worth of deals really took off. Personally, I think at least one or two of the major GPU OEMs will go bust thanks to all of this, and I would be surprised if Framework, Pine64 and Steam's hardware li…

My next GPU will be from AMD, not just because I'm in the process of switching to Linux but I have a gut feeling that Nvidia doesn't see desktop GPUs as their priority anymore and support might diminish faster.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by consp »

prmoustache wrote: post #34
easyThrowaway wrote: post #17

Hopefully they'll somehow support Proton and Valve devices. Trying to run older windows-only games bought on GOG with launchers like Heroic is a bit of a hit or miss, despite the Steam releases of the same games having somehow a bigger chance of working out of the box. I guess there are some weird differences between the default Proton Runtime and the proton-ge/wine-ge builds.

If you have steam installed on the same machine, you can use proton runtimes from steam already.

I use proton experimental to run most windows tools with no linux support. Small script in the script nautilus folder and there you go "run-win.sh" for all (util a native tool emerges).

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by tmtvl »

EspadaV9 wrote: post #7

No. Please don't. Contribute to something like Heroic Launcher instead. Don't create something new just for GOG. Help make the existing tools better. It'll mean GOG has to do less work, and the programs people are already using will get better. Or even just sponsor Heroic so they can send more time we can working on it themselves.

GNU/Linux gamers are always decrying GOG, saying they won't buy stuff from them because Galaxy doesn't run on GNU/Linux, now we're getting people saying GOG porting Galaxy to GNU/Linux is bad!? By Taranis, GOG just can't get a break, can they?

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by consp »

Draiken wrote: post #100
pjc50 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is a good lesson in why companies don't try to bring stuff to Linux: the market is incredibly resentful of products.

Come on... it's always the same reason: money. Companies don't support Linux because it's not widespread enough so it can't outweigh the costs. They don't give a rat's ass for the market's resentfulness or lack thereof. The Linux market was basically not a real market before because their market share was simply too small. There are plenty of products made for resentful markets and as long as they keep being profitab…

> Companies don't support Linux because it's not widespread enough so it can't outweigh the costs.

I'm pretty sure they made the calculation assuming the GabeBox from Valve is a success and didn't want to miss out.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by Tade0 »

trwired wrote: post #94
Kim_Bruning wrote: post #41

On the upside, this might mean I'll buy more stuff from GOG again. Steam+Proton is just so darn convenient .

This is one thing that's been puzzling for me ever since I switched to Linux full time a few years ago and so also started gaming on it. In my experience GOG bought games handled by Lutris/Heroic/Mini Galaxy trump Steam in convenience almost every time. There's been quite a few deal breaking issues with Steam client and/or Proton that went unaddressed by Valve for months that just never happened to me on the GOG+game…

The Steam client was always flaky as hell - on Windows as well.

I've always wondered were problems on Steam's side or on the side of game devs implementing its APIs?

Anyway I personally experienced scaling issues, but chalked that up to my DE being unreliable. I also occasionally can't click on certain UI elements, but I recall this being a problem in Windows as well.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by orbital-decay »

emsign wrote: post #14

I'm very hopeful that Linux gaming will save the open PC desktop despite big tech is coming to destroy it. Or at least keep PCs alive for another decade. Gamers are still a huge factor as hardware customers. GOG creating a Linux launcher and Steam Box with SteamOS coming out soon should benefit PC users in general not just gamers since Microslop sees Windows like a social experiment where they can test AI on unsuspec…

Most gamers don't give a shit about openness. A much more likely outcome is "big tech" following the numbers and slowly making Linux unusable by using EEE or any other tactic under the pretense of usefulness.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by Tade0 »

xtracto wrote: post #98
anthonj wrote: post #8

That's very nice to hear. But diffuclt to beat valve here, they are actively contributing to drivers and wine. When you buy even just windows software from steam you are helping funding that.

I don't think they are trying to beat valve. GoG has been like those airlines that fly where no major airlines want to fly. Filling a underserved but large market.

I have a hunch that the currently sole owner just wants to do this until retirement. GoG is financially stable so there's no pressure to increase revenue.

I see no simpler explanation why someone would buy out a subsidiary like that.

All in all, GoG thrives on people being sentimental and it's totally in character for the owner to be sentimental as well.

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