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Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by bravetraveler »

anonymous908213 wrote: post #44
bravetraveler wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of words for "yes they will insist on fragmentation"

Linux userspace is defined by fragmentation. Linux users can't even unify on a distro, such that significant swathes of software are incompatible for some users despite everyone using the same kernel. In that environment, and also just in general, why is anybody obligated to contribute to a specific existing project rather than building their own?

Said absolutely nothing about obligation, raising the same decades-long observation. The users will see strife [and joy], considering Heroic does decently but this will be advantaged. That's it. Forgive me if I don't want to go over it again.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by embedding-shape »

orbital-decay wrote: post #109
emsign wrote: post #14

I'm very hopeful that Linux gaming will save the open PC desktop despite big tech is coming to destroy it. Or at least keep PCs alive for another decade. Gamers are still a huge factor as hardware customers. GOG creating a Linux launcher and Steam Box with SteamOS coming out soon should benefit PC users in general not just gamers since Microslop sees Windows like a social experiment where they can test AI on unsuspec…

Most gamers don't give a shit about openness. A much more likely outcome is "big tech" following the numbers and slowly making Linux unusable by using EEE or any other tactic under the pretense of usefulness.

> Most gamers don't give a shit about openness

I don't think this is a given. I think most gamers so far haven't cared about openness because pragmatically, it didn't matter for them.

Now they're seeing the long-term effect of not caring about that though, which is why we're suddenly seeing a movement of gamers moving to Linux, and trying to get others to move with them, because they realize the importance now, as their desktops are slowly collapsing over Microsoft's decision to let AI do all the programming, and having zero QA before releasing stuff to the public.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by haunter »

lifetimerubyist wrote: post #117
orbital-decay wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most gamers don't give a shit about openness. A much more likely outcome is "big tech" following the numbers and slowly making Linux unusable by using EEE or any other tactic under the pretense of usefulness.

Gamers generally game on PC because they like building their system. Otherwise they would use a PS5 Pro or whatever. The PC is an “open” platform in that you can buy and choose your own hardware. Intel vs AMD vs Nvidia, Seagate vs Western Digital, etc…. Using open software isn’t really more than a few steps from that. Being able to pick how your system works and customizing it to your liking is basically the software…

I'd rather say

1, because multiplayer is free. Still baffling to me that you actually have to pay to play with others on consoles

2, piracy is much much easier

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by nialv7 »

anthonj wrote: post #8

That's very nice to hear. But diffuclt to beat valve here, they are actively contributing to drivers and wine. When you buy even just windows software from steam you are helping funding that.

They don't need to beat valve. The contribution made by valve is going to benefit GOG too. That's the power of open source.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by craftkiller »

bravetraveler wrote: post #59
freehorse wrote: post #55

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Obligatory xkcd https://xkcd.com/927/

Yea. Good and bad, I'm exhausted. The fragmentation argument goes back to the creation of 'init' . Cheapshot: Good Old Games (as long as our proprietary software functions)

> Cheapshot: Good Old Games (as long as our proprietary software functions)

False. That's literally the point of GOG. You can download the games directly from their website, install them, and run them without running any GOG software. GOG could vanish tomorrow and you'd still be able to play every game you purchased, as long as you backed up their installers somewhere.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by bravetraveler »

craftkiller wrote: post #136
bravetraveler wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea. Good and bad, I'm exhausted. The fragmentation argument goes back to the creation of 'init' . Cheapshot: Good Old Games (as long as our proprietary software functions)

> Cheapshot: Good Old Games (as long as our proprietary software functions) False. That's literally the point of GOG. You can download the games directly from their website, install them, and run them without running any GOG software. GOG could vanish tomorrow and you'd still be able to play every game you purchased, as long as you backed up their installers somewhere.

Like I said, cheap: I didn't think much about it. I've enjoyed downloading those archives. I've really enjoyed using Heroic instead.

I appreciate the first party reference and backup, but I'll stick with this for the consolidation.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by immibis »

da_grift_shift wrote: post #9
bpye wrote: post #5

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There is no DRM on GOG. https://www.gog.com/blog/what-exactly-is-drm-in-video-games-...

Yet the standalone offline installed games won't run without libgalaxy.dylib (Mac) or Galaxy64.dll (Windows) which is responsible for outbound connections to https://galaxy-log.gog.com and https://insights-collector.gog.com ? To be clear: if you buy Disco Elysium on GOG, download the "offline game installer" without using Galaxy, install it, and run the game on a desert island, it will work (the network requests fail…

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