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Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by watwut »

dominicrose wrote: post #160
bawolff wrote: post #29

That's crazy. That's like ~40% of the deaths in the current gaza war, except over just 2 days instead of 2 years.

There was a lot of death in 2 days but the revolution started about a month ago so it's not just those two days. I think you could compare Gaza to a single Iranian city, but Iran is much larger than this. Another important distinction is that - no matter what your beliefs are - civilians aren't the target in Gaza, but they clearly are the target in Iran. If the civilians had weapons, it would be a different story.

> civilians aren't the target in Gaza

They are and so were doctors, journalists and such.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by [deleted] »

redwood wrote: post #54
caminante wrote: post #19

The source (Iran International) is backed by Saudi money and has a bias to dunk on Iran. That said, I'm sure the death count numbers from the Rasht Massacre are staggeringly higher than the initial tallies of 2-5k.

It is a source run by expatriate Iranians of the diaspora.. the fact that so many people just discount their point of view it's pretty frustrating. If you speak to Iranians that you work with it's pretty illuminating

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Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by drecked »

dyauspitr wrote: post #213
sourcegrift wrote: post #51

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Actually, if anything, that makes it trustworthy because Saudi would like the regime to stay so that they can stay out of the oil markets and keep the prices high.

It’s Shia Sunni, it transgresses economics.

Not really. Saudi Arabia and Iran struck a China brokered deal several years ago and have been meeting regularly since. In fact, they recently met and put out a statement condemning Israel’s attacks on Iran.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by vogre »

johanyc wrote: post #309
vogre wrote: post #284

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>two senior officials of the country’s Ministry of Health And their names are never called.

It's pretty common practice if naming them will get the people who shared the info in trouble. Depends on whether you think Time is a trustworthy source I guess

Time always was a propaganda leaflet.

Remember "bomb serbs to heel" or "sinister world of saddam"

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by woeh »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #372
ripped_britches wrote: post #298

Legitimate question - why am I not seeing this in the news? This is horrifying but where is the coverage?

And there are many other legitimate questions: where are the celebrities speaking up to defend the cause of the iranian protesters? Where are the students in western universities protesting against what the iranian regime did? Where's the International Court of Justice's condemnation of iranian politicians? Where's the flotilla led by Greta Thumberg in support of the iranian people? There are, IMO, very grave and ver…

The biggest difference is "our" role in it. For western countries, the economic and diplomatic relations with e.g. Israel is a lot stronger than with Iran. It makes much more sense to speak up if you feel your country or one of their allies does something you disagree with.

That is only pragmatic, right? Speaking up might actually change things by putting these relations at stake. For Iran, there might not be much left to do from a western perspective except military involvement. Starting another war is not something a Greta led flotilla might want to do.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by kakacik »

gilrain wrote: post #377
gryzzly wrote: post #364

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were you serving in the last two years and received this order? none of my friends or family have.

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@mods this is unacceptable behavior (but such threads are full of this), blind fanatics on both sides

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by justonceokay »

sepisoad wrote: post #391

An iranian expat here. I have been following the news closely, mostly getting my data from my friends in Iran before the internet shutdown and after it was (sort of) lifted. The death toll is way above this number, you have to consider the fact that Iran is a big country with many small cities, and in my city alone (which is very small and rarely has any protest going on) many people have died (i don’t have the exact…

lol @ “west/israel/free market”. I think you have an aliasing bug.

Why would leftists (or anyone) be confused who the bad guy is here? Generally as a rule of thumb for international conflict you can count on the left to be on the side of the underdog, no matter how naive a view that may be in a given circumstance.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

gryzzly wrote: post #380
gilrain wrote: post #377

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Said home was forcefully taken though. Legally / internationally Israel was allotted certain land (without the inhabitants getting a say) after WW2, but they quickly decided (on their own) that it wasn't enough and they started invading / colonizing land outside of what they were given.

If you're wondering why palestinians are angry, there's your answer.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by apical_dendrite »

ripped_britches wrote: post #298

Legitimate question - why am I not seeing this in the news? This is horrifying but where is the coverage?

The New York Times' The Daily podcast had a very good episode on it a couple weeks ago. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/14/podcasts/the-daily/iran-p...

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by MSFT_Edging »

gryzzly wrote: post #398
MSFT_Edging wrote: post #393

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Members of the IDF were regularly posting open admissions and even videos of actual war crimes to social media. It was so common, the IDF had to beg them numerous times to stop. This was the primary method for groups like the Hind Rajab foundation, to locate these war criminals while they were vacationing in other countries to have them arrested on war crime charges. They didn't need orders, they simply were never to…

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> saying israelis

No, the IDF has been built up as an occupation force. Therefore, they do occupation force things, like shoot through fences at children, destroy ambulances, post on instagram "I am blowing up this block of civilian housing in revenge for my friend" which is two explicit war-crimes.

I think Israel as a nation has to contend with the level of violence they have permitted to happen to those who they have dehumanized as they've continued to maintain an apartheid state, seize land, and kill without any kind of accountability.

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