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Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by sepisoad »

An iranian expat here. I have been following the news closely, mostly getting my data from my friends in Iran before the internet shutdown and after it was (sort of) lifted.

The death toll is way above this number, you have to consider the fact that Iran is a big country with many small cities, and in my city alone (which is very small and rarely has any protest going on) many people have died (i don’t have the exact numbers but it could be anywhere between 100 to 200) and when you put this into perspective you will understand that in scale of the entire country a lot of people have died.

I have heard that not only they killed people on the street but they have chased those who fled and killded them at their places or hidings, let alone the killing of the injured ones in hospitals.

It’s is a big tragedy and people are reluctant to talk about it because those who are committing this massacre are MUSLIMS and support PALESTINE so this is a moral dilemma for the left lovers! because they see Mullah’s regime as one of their biggest allies when it comes to attack West/Israel/Free market

It’s a shame that all those activist that would shred themselves for Palestine are absolutely quite about Iran

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by Gareth321 »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #372
ripped_britches wrote: post #298

Legitimate question - why am I not seeing this in the news? This is horrifying but where is the coverage?

And there are many other legitimate questions: where are the celebrities speaking up to defend the cause of the iranian protesters? Where are the students in western universities protesting against what the iranian regime did? Where's the International Court of Justice's condemnation of iranian politicians? Where's the flotilla led by Greta Thumberg in support of the iranian people? There are, IMO, very grave and ver…

The last few years has made me extremely cynical. I am beginning to think we don't see the protests because the bad guys are brown and Muslim, and people in those circles are not allowed to criticise brown Muslims. I've seen a weak defense that "our government isn't funding this," but our governments aren't funding the Sudanese Civil War in which 150,000 have died to date, and there is still radio silence in those same circles.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by MSFT_Edging »

gryzzly wrote: post #364
lukan wrote: post #318

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except of course, the IDF high command officially gave the order to "give up all restraint".

were you serving in the last two years and received this order? none of my friends or family have.

Members of the IDF were regularly posting open admissions and even videos of actual war crimes to social media. It was so common, the IDF had to beg them numerous times to stop.

This was the primary method for groups like the Hind Rajab foundation, to locate these war criminals while they were vacationing in other countries to have them arrested on war crime charges.

They didn't need orders, they simply were never told no.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by apical_dendrite »

throw310822 wrote: post #297
bdelmas wrote: post #289

I really don’t understand why in the West there is nobody in the streets to protest but there was so many people for Palestine… Where are the people?

Because the far worse Palestine massacre was perpetrated by an ally of the West, defended by western politicians and opinion makers, financed with western money and armed with western weapons. Then it makes sense to protest against your country's complicity. Protesting in your country against an enemy country that has been subjected already to all kinds of sanctions and military attacks makes little sense.

Did you also think that protests of the Darfur genocide were pointless?

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by MSFT_Edging »

timnetworks wrote: post #386
MSFT_Edging wrote: post #375

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Langley is part of Fairfax County. Much of northern Virginia is unincorporated Census Designated Places within counties. Additionally, a large portion of NGOs are based in Fairfax county due to the proximity to DC. The NRA headquarters is in Fairfax, and Maria Butina lived down the road from the NRA headquarters. A fun game to play is following the source. For instance, when events in Xiajiang were getting nonstop co…

Fairfax is pretty close, about 30 miles or 3-4 hours driving.

what?

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by gryzzly »

lukan wrote: post #390
gryzzly wrote: post #364

Earlier quoted context omitted.

were you serving in the last two years and received this order? none of my friends or family have.

https://www.icj-cij.org/node/203447 "On 9 October 2023, Mr Yoav Gallant, Defence Minister of Israel, announced that he had ordered a “complete siege” of Gaza City and that there would be “no electricity, no food, no fuel” and that “everything [was] closed”. On the following day, Minister Gallant stated, speaking to Israeli troops on the Gaza border: “I have released all restraints . . . You saw what we are fighting a…

Do you see how it refers to Hamas? What should this quote prove? To me it proves that high command gives fighters motivational speeches, nothing else.

Also, the measures concluded in the end of the document are about ensuring this was a motivational speech for soldiers that are going to fight Hamas terrorists, not a vague statement.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by genghisjahn »

MSFT_Edging wrote: post #375
bluecheese452 wrote: post #352

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to their website NED is based in washington dc. The CIA hq is not in fairfax, it is in Langley. Even if they were in the same city that is an incredibly weak argument. Custom ink (the shirt company) is also in fairfax. Are they a cia front too?

Langley is part of Fairfax County. Much of northern Virginia is unincorporated Census Designated Places within counties. Additionally, a large portion of NGOs are based in Fairfax county due to the proximity to DC. The NRA headquarters is in Fairfax, and Maria Butina lived down the road from the NRA headquarters. A fun game to play is following the source. For instance, when events in Xiajiang were getting nonstop co…

Can we see your documentation for this claim?

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by gryzzly »

MSFT_Edging wrote: post #393
gryzzly wrote: post #364

Earlier quoted context omitted.

were you serving in the last two years and received this order? none of my friends or family have.

Members of the IDF were regularly posting open admissions and even videos of actual war crimes to social media. It was so common, the IDF had to beg them numerous times to stop. This was the primary method for groups like the Hind Rajab foundation, to locate these war criminals while they were vacationing in other countries to have them arrested on war crime charges. They didn't need orders, they simply were never to…

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Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by watwut »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #372
ripped_britches wrote: post #298

Legitimate question - why am I not seeing this in the news? This is horrifying but where is the coverage?

And there are many other legitimate questions: where are the celebrities speaking up to defend the cause of the iranian protesters? Where are the students in western universities protesting against what the iranian regime did? Where's the International Court of Justice's condemnation of iranian politicians? Where's the flotilla led by Greta Thumberg in support of the iranian people? There are, IMO, very grave and ver…

Basically no one is allowed to protest own government complicity in anything, especially not Palestinian kinda look like genocide situation, unless they protest literally every single atrocity everywhere.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by apical_dendrite »

Gareth321 wrote: post #392
TacticalCoder wrote: post #372

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And there are many other legitimate questions: where are the celebrities speaking up to defend the cause of the iranian protesters? Where are the students in western universities protesting against what the iranian regime did? Where's the International Court of Justice's condemnation of iranian politicians? Where's the flotilla led by Greta Thumberg in support of the iranian people? There are, IMO, very grave and ver…

The last few years has made me extremely cynical. I am beginning to think we don't see the protests because the bad guys are brown and Muslim, and people in those circles are not allowed to criticise brown Muslims. I've seen a weak defense that "our government isn't funding this," but our governments aren't funding the Sudanese Civil War in which 150,000 have died to date, and there is still radio silence in those sa…

If you look at some of the most active groups in the pro-Palestinian left, like the PSL in the United States, you'll see that they have a very long history of praising horrific, oppressive regimes (even North Korea!) that oppose the United States, and dismissing accusations of crimes against humanity when perpetrated by those regimes. The PSL is a minuscule political party, but they're highly involved in organizing these protests.
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