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ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by anigbrowl »

tinyhouse wrote: post #60
therobots927 wrote: post #43

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You’re right. We should throw away the constitution so we can deport.. (checks notes) 600,000 undocumented immigrants, only 5% of which have committed a violent crime.

I don't have a horse in this race, but I do have a question. If you don't deport illegal immigrants, why not just open the border to everyone to come in? (let's ignore criminal records, etc for this exercise). What's the point of not letting people in but then if they manage to come in illegally, assume it's all good and they can stay?

As if those were the only two possibilities.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by AngryData »

rngfnby wrote: post #125
halfmatthalfcat wrote: post #74

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The US cannot afford, demographically, to curtail immigration, illegal or otherwise. Simple fact is the US needs more people because we’re under the replacement rate.

But why are we under the replacement rate? Seems relevant

That's what happens when you make your population poor by outsourcing large chunks of your economic base and stomping on worker rights.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by blibble »

charcircuit wrote: post #393
blibble wrote: post #374

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> There weren't ex post facto laws being passed during the holocaust. the argument isn't that states can't create ex-post facto laws (even though they can, see: any country with parliamentary sovereignty) it's that what the law says doesn't matter when the executive no is longer bound by the rule of law see: the United States under the Trump regime the fact that some previous legislature has passed a law saying that…

No, this argument is about the database of past events being prosecuted in the future. >"using the gay/jewish/disabled/... database for bad things is illegal" If it is legal than I want to be able to use such a database as it makes law enforcement more efficient. It gets rid of inefficiency in the government. Wanting such inefficiency is wanting to allow for unlawful behavior. It's the whole using privacy as an excus…

asinine logic

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by hydrogen7800 »

nailer wrote: post #325
regenschutz wrote: post #225

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They're not just going after the so-called "illegal aliens", something made clear after the numerous extrajudicial killings by ICE officers recently, such as the one that occured yesterday.

Someone bought a Sig Sauer gun that’s known to go off when moved suddenly (you can find as many videos as you want on the issue) - grabbed an agent and resisted arrest. The gun went off during the arrest, officers thought the man was firing at them. It’s tragic - the way to prevent this is to increase calm, give the federal officers some support, stop conspiracy theories (eg like the boy that abandoned by his father…

Well, that's an interesting take. Even if a holstered weapon did discharge (no idea how likely this is for the specific weapon in question), why would someone suspect they are being fired at by a person with a holstered weapon? Poor/no training is the most charitable explanation.

I suppose enough people will grasp at this take.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by [deleted] »

array_key_first wrote: post #353
andy99 wrote: post #237

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Yeah so find a forum that’s for discussing that and discuss it there. Don’t try and force people who are discussing something else to talk about politics with you. Do you also randomly go onto GitHub issues and start talking politics because the people who are talking about repo bugs are “hiding behind a bush” and should talk about the political things you think are important instead?

Nobody is forcing you to do anything. You're choosing to comment. You're not being censored nor is your speech compelled. This forum is for hacker news. Some people believe tech news related to politics qualifies, some don't. Your perspective is equally arbitrary. You have no reasoning, no justification. So stop pretending you do.

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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by AngryData »

libpcap wrote: post #308

Immigration laws, like any other laws, need to be enforced, right?

No, just because something is illegal doesn't mean it should be ruthlessly enforced with dangerous and deadly action or even enforced at all when the majority of the public doesn't support them. Do you believe the feds should go into marijuana legal states and start arresting everybody for breaking the law? Marijuana is illegal after all.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by [deleted] »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #239
filoeleven wrote: post #170

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The "hide" link is right next to the "flag" link. Using flag instead of hide puts more strain on the mods, and is not the right thing to do for "this topic doesn't apply to my interests."

But it is the right thing to do for "this topic violates HN guidelines both in letter and in spirit, as well as predictably causing low-quality discussion threads".

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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by zxcvasd »

[deleted] wrote: post #415
array_key_first wrote: post #353

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Nobody is forcing you to do anything. You're choosing to comment. You're not being censored nor is your speech compelled. This forum is for hacker news. Some people believe tech news related to politics qualifies, some don't. Your perspective is equally arbitrary. You have no reasoning, no justification. So stop pretending you do.

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