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Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Post by slg »

dang wrote: post #118
i_cannot_hack wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have sent an email linking to this discussion, but I think it would be more constructive if the helpful and forthcoming answers happened in public rather than in sent in private email threads to everyone wondering. Calling discussing something on HN "hypothesizing into the void" is a strange choice of words, either meant to be patronizing toward me specifically or toward all HN users.

> I think it would be more constructive if the helpful and forthcoming answers happened in public You're in luck, because there are thousands of public answers and you can search them easily: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=by:dang&type=comment&dateRange... (by dang), https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... (by tomhow). The answers we give by email are no different from the ones we give in publi…

With the direction we're headed, there's a non-zero chance that some day soon I'll click on over to https://news.ycombinator.com/active and see "[flagged][dead] US Erupts in Civil War" and I'll click on the comments to see a copied and pasted comment from dang with a link to a dozen other comments explaining why this political story doesn't belong on HN.

"Politics" doesn't care about your apolitical spaces. It's coming for everything and you'll have to draw the line somewhere.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Post by nullocator »

starkparker wrote: post #115
dragontamer wrote: post #63

Sounds like ICE's official word right now is that the guy had a gun. But the video clearly indicates that they all tackled him to the ground and were wrestling him maybe 4 vs 1, before they all shot him together. I'm not quite sure how a gun can have come out of this. Maybe the guy while struggling on the ground happened to reach in the direction of someone's gun while getting curbstomped, I dunno. What I'm most worr…

> At a news conference, Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O’Hara said the man who was shot was a 37-year-old white man with no serious criminal history and a record that showed some parking tickets. Law enforcement sources said Saturday their records show Pretti had no serious criminal history. > O'Hara said the man was a “lawful gun owner” with a permit. Records show that Pretti attended the University of Minnesota. St…

Possessing a fire arm and having an encounter with law enforcement in the united states has long been a death sentence. You can find a multitude of videos online of cops doing stuff like getting the wrong address and beating on someones door and when that person opens the door with a gun in their hand and then the cops open fire, happens all the time.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Post by thisisit »

slg wrote: post #122

For how long can we keep ignoring this?

Until someone comes for them.

It is basically equivalent to "First They Came".

First they came for the Immigrants And I did not speak out Because they were not Immigrants (hell they were stealing jobs so fck them)

Then they came for the US citizens who were Socialist/Leftists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist/Leftists (hell they dare protest the government so fck them)

so and so forth..

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Post by ninkendo »

pan69 wrote: post #163
ninkendo wrote: post #135

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Who’s ignoring it?

Republican senators?

I wouldn’t say they’re ignoring it’s so much as cheering it on, and falling over each other to voice their support for it. It’s liberals getting killed after all, and they’re not Americans like republicans are Americans.

No, there’s people that love what ICE is doing, people that hate it, people who try and stop it, and the rest of us who look on in horror at the trainwreck and collapse happening in front of us…

But I can’t think of a single group of people who are ignoring it. Other than maybe for a lack of perceived other options and to keep from going insane.

Myself? I’m basically a coward. I have two young children. I don’t want to go protest ICE and get killed by one of these wannabe gestapos. I’m in a real state of fear for my children and the world they’re going to grow up in, but I literally don’t know what else I can do. Maybe I’ll help join the campaign if a democratic candidate this year and help them get elected.

But I’m not ignoring it. I can’t think of anyone who is.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Post by Hikikomori »

dismalaf wrote: post #44
techblueberry wrote: post #36

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In America we have the second amendment and open carry laws. Legally speaking, people openly carrying a weapon should not in itself be considered illegal.

I said "resist arrest while being armed and reaching for a gun" I didn't say "have a legal firearm". There's some key points in there.

Neither is true.

He was on his knees with two officers holding his arms, another beating him in the head with some hard item while the one on grey disarmed him.

Only after the person in grey moved a few meters away can you hear a gunshot and then they unload 10 or so shots.

Seems like an accidental discharge or they thought he got his gun in his hand since it wasn't in the holster anymore. Either way, extreme incompetence shown once again by aggressive and untrained white supremacist thugs, which is exactly what they want.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Post by CamperBob2 »

mothballed wrote: post #167
dragontamer wrote: post #162

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That's already been revealed by Minnesota Police (thank goodness we at least have some degree of independent investigations going on right now). 1. Only had parking tickets on his criminal record. No other criminal activity. 2. Owned a gun with firearms permit. 3. 36 Years Old, male. EDIT: I misremembered. Its apparently 37 year old male. Minnesota Police only have jurisdiction inside of Minnesota however. So those f…

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He was an ICE observer, not a target. He was legally carrying a gun, but the object he was "brandishing" was a phone.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Post by therobots927 »

goethes_kind wrote: post #171
therobots927 wrote: post #160

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At least half of the flags are probably from off the books bots used by HN to filter dissent. I’m not kidding.

pg doesn't support this, so I don't buy these conspiracy theories.

pg is a member of the technocracy. Their public positions mean nothing when they continue to hack away at the fabric of society. If it’s not HN doing it it’s someone else, and they have made no effort to stop it. So either way, their platform is being manipulated to filter dissent.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Post by CamperBob2 »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #101
jimt1234 wrote: post #83

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It's always been strange to me that Americans are allowed to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights...until they get killed by police. Then they should've known not to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights.

Yeah, it's almost like people walking around with guns is a bad idea.

Yeah, somebody should do something about that. Masked men with guns and unlimited immunity aren't good to have around in your community.

Oh, wait, you meant the victim.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Post by nullocator »

yongjik wrote: post #149
jimt1234 wrote: post #83

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It's always been strange to me that Americans are allowed to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights...until they get killed by police. Then they should've known not to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights.

The group of Americans who are the loudest at cheering for the 2nd Amendment rights are cheering for ICE these days. To them, "the security of a free State" means that it has a caste system with the "good guys" at the top, and when ICE goons execute Minnesotans, they see brave armed citizens fighting back against the tyranny of wokeness.

The truth of this hurts my soul
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