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Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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You can never tell the breaking point of fascism but this certainly looks like it. I'm happy I don't work for a US company because I no longer think it's ethical to do so.

Most people I know, including some on the right disagree with these tactics which seem designed more to intimidate and silence opposition. Of course you’re free to work with whomever you choose but it seems like a pretty empty virtue signal to avoid all companies in a huge, diverse country

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Doesn’t matter if he was or wasn’t resisting arrest. Totally irrelevant. This is supposed to be a country of laws. There is no law that allows for execution for resisting arrest.

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Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Sounds like ICE's official word right now is that the guy had a gun. But the video clearly indicates that they all tackled him to the ground and were wrestling him maybe 4 vs 1, before they all shot him together. I'm not quite sure how a gun can have come out of this. Maybe the guy while struggling on the ground happened to reach in the direction of someone's gun while getting curbstomped, I dunno. What I'm most worr…

> At a news conference, Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O’Hara said the man who was shot was a 37-year-old white man with no serious criminal history and a record that showed some parking tickets. Law enforcement sources said Saturday their records show Pretti had no serious criminal history. > O'Hara said the man was a “lawful gun owner” with a permit. Records show that Pretti attended the University of Minnesota. St…

The bargain with law enforcement has always been that ostensibly if you comply, they will take you in peacefully. For obvious reasons, this is highly advantageous to both parties.

It seems like a foolish choice for them to reneg on this. They are essentially signaling that you are a trapped rat with no way out.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

#157

First they came for the illegal immigrants and I did not speak out, because I was not an illegal immigrant. Then they came for the legal immigrants they didn't like and I did not speak out, because I was not a legal immigrant. Then they came for their political enemies and I did not speak up, because I was not their political enemy. Then they came for me, and there was nobody left to speak out for me.

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Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Regarding just the headline, at this point it's not really about immigration, this has evolved into a soft civil conflict being waged for political reasons. The two people who have been killed so far were themselves citizens and at best were political dissidents. They were not themselves subject to detainment due to immigration status.

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Watch the video of what led to this. He was standing there filming with his phone, ICE ran up to him and started yelling/pushing.

Are you suggesting that him filming was obstructing ICE?

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

#159

First they came for the illegal immigrants and I did not speak out, because I was not an illegal immigrant. Then they came for the legal immigrants they didn't like and I did not speak out, because I was not a legal immigrant. Then they came for their political enemies and I did not speak up, because I was not their political enemy. Then they came for me, and there was nobody left to speak out for me.

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I am confused.
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