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Nvidia Stock Crash Prediction

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Re: Nvidia Stock Crash Prediction

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> But is not NVIDIA more of a software company than a hardware one? No? That’s why they have almost no competition. Hardware starting costs are astronomical

But the actual manufacturing foundry is TSMC no? And they create the whole software environment based on their chips.

Apple doesn’t make hardware either, but they make a lot of money selling it.

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Industrial military complex and government contractors.

Jets, tanks, drones and data centers for intelligence services, even design, are full of electronics but what's the share of those not made in Taiwan?

They’re not cutting edge chips, they’re made all over, including the US, Korea, and China.

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Intel makes GPUs.

Intel's GPU designs make AMD look world-class by comparison. Outside of transcode applications, those Arc cards aren't putting up a fight.

...if you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with?

Re: Nvidia Stock Crash Prediction

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But then again what won't? Non tech stocks?

Gold stocks, basic materials, MSCI world and emerging market indexes. Look at their prices and see how very smart people are positioning their money.

Yes, but that’s not because of AI, it’s because of the Orange Wizard of Tarrifs.

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It goes to nearly zero if China invades Taiwan, and that seems like it has at least a 10% chance of happening in the next year or two.

but they're expected to have 8 or 9 aircraft carriers by 2035, doesn't it make sense to wait until then?

It’s only about 200km across the straight. They have over a thousand fighters and a couple of hundred bombers capable of crossing that gap.

Re: Nvidia Stock Crash Prediction

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I hear your argument, but short of major algorithmic breakthroughs I am not convinced the global demand for GPUs will drop any time soon. Of course I could easily be wrong, but regardless I think the most predictable cause for a drop in the NVIDIA price would be that the CHIPS act/recent decisions by the CCP leads a Chinese firm to bring to market a CUDA compatible and reliable GPU at a fraction of the cost. It shoul…

I suspect major algorithmic breakthroughs would accelerate the demand for GPUs instead of making it fall off, since the cost to apply LLMs would go down.

Some changes to the algorithms and implementations will allow cheaper commodity hardware to be used.

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It's an analogy, it doesn't have to map 1:1 to AI. The point is that current situation around AI looks kind of similar to the situation and level of hype around Crypto when it was still growing: all the "ledger" startups, promises of decentralization, NFTs in video games and so on. We are somewhere around that point when it comes to AI.

I agree with the all the startups but AI is already much more useful in everyday tasks vs crypto. Eg: A chatbot assistant is much more tangible to the regular joe than blockchain technology

Anecdotally, many non-technical users or "regular joes" as it were that I know who were very enthusiastic about AI a year ago are now disengaging. With the rate really picking up the last couple of months.

Their usage has declined primarily with OpenAI and Gemini tools, no one has mentioned Anthropic based models but I don't think normies know they exist honestly.

The disengagement seems to be that with enough time and real world application, the shortcomings have become more noticable and the patience they once had for incorrect or unreliable output has effectively evaporated. In cases, to the point where its starting to outweigh any gains they get.

Not all of the normies I know to be fair, but a surprising amount given the strange period of quiet inbetween "This is amazing!" and "eh, its not as good as I thought it was at first."

Re: Nvidia Stock Crash Prediction

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It's an analogy, it doesn't have to map 1:1 to AI. The point is that current situation around AI looks kind of similar to the situation and level of hype around Crypto when it was still growing: all the "ledger" startups, promises of decentralization, NFTs in video games and so on. We are somewhere around that point when it comes to AI.

I agree with the all the startups but AI is already much more useful in everyday tasks vs crypto. Eg: A chatbot assistant is much more tangible to the regular joe than blockchain technology

I agree that AI is much more useful than crypto ever was, but it's not as useful as AI hype valuation would like to paint it.

Re: Nvidia Stock Crash Prediction

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I really don't understand the argument that nvidia GPUs only work for 1-3 years. I am currently using A100s and H100s every day. Those aren't exactly new anymore.

It’s not that they don’t work. It’s how businesses handle hardware. I worked at a few data centers on and off in my career. I got lots of hardware for free or on the cheap simply because the hardware was considered “EOL” after about 3 years, often when support contracts with the vendor ends. There are a few things to consider. Hardware that ages produce more errors, and those errors cost, one way or another. Rack spa…

> Rack space is limited.

Rack space and power (and cooling) in the datacenter drives what hardware stays in the datacenter

Re: Nvidia Stock Crash Prediction

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This article goes more into the technical analysis of the stock rather than the underlying business fundamentals that would lead to a stock dump. My 30k ft view is that the stock will inevitably slide as AI datacenter spending goes down. Right now Nvidia is flying high because datacenters are breaking ground everywhere but eventually that will come to an end as the supply of compute goes up. The counterargument to th…

This seems to take for granted that China and their foundries and engineering teams will never catch up. This seems foolish. I'm working under the assumption that sometime in the next ten years some Chinese company will have a breakthrough and either meet Nvidia's level or leapfrog them. Then the market will flood with great, cheap chips.
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