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Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by ceejayoz »

adamiscool8 wrote: post #232
ceejayoz wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not currently making "jokes" about annexing the country?

Two years ago the same party that currently holds Canadian government and just made these concessions to China completed a report [0] that found >[China’s actions] collectively "undermine our democratic institutions, our fundamental rights and freedoms, our social cohesion and our long-term prosperity.”[343] [and] the need to consider the threats in the context of an increasingly assertive PRC. Accordingly, Minister…

And what would such a report about the US authored today look like?

Two years ago Trump wasn’t President. The math changed, massively.

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Post by outside1234 »

Jeff_Brown wrote: post #17
ortusdux wrote: post #6

"Canada has agreed to allow an annual quota of 49,000 Chinese electric vehicles into the country at the tariff rate of just 6.1%" https://electricautonomy.ca/data-trackers/ev-sales-data/2025... "Canada recorded 45,366 new zero-emission vehicle registrations in Q3 2025, accounting for 9.4 per cent of all new vehicle registrations in the quarter, according to the latest report from Statistics Canada." "Of the total, 26…

In a country with 42 million inhabitants this doesn't seem like a big change even for canada, let alone for the global economy.

The thing I am wondering is if there was an unwritten agreement to build Chinese BEV plants in Canada. This would give China access to the US market without tariffs and would give Canada manufacturing jobs.

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Post by myrmidon »

z2 wrote: post #252
myrmidon wrote: post #29

I wonder if this might even be below reasonable "subsidy-compensation" tariff levels. BYD, for reference, got almost 30% of their 2024 income from the Chinese state (~$1.4b). But this is always difficult to judge because most nations help local industry to some degree, and it can be quite difficult to compare.

In comparison with Musk's companies ($15 billion in 2023, $7b in 2024), this seems to be a pittance. https://www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/117956/documents/...

This is exactly why its so hard to compare though; government contracts, emission credits and direct subsidies are all quite different and weighting them is highly subjective.

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Post by mikestorrent »

faust201 wrote: post #281
anvuong wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lawfully? How many IPs have they stolen from universities and companies across the world?

Nice. IP is one thing that has ruined many things. Unless you are WIPO and Oracle Fan. All current AI companies are closed. What benefit? Most things from Uni are published openly. BTW, did people in US pay royalty to China for inventing paper?

Yeah, people forget that IP is a social construct, and there's no reason a different society can't simply have different constructs. Open source / Free software is a different social construct too; and Stallman would have us live in a world where nobody is enriching themselves with proprietary technology they exert unfair control over.

Problem has always been ensuring that people who have brilliant ideas get appropriately rewarded for their contribution to humanity - but not disproportionately.

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Post by [deleted] »

justonceokay wrote: post #118
bluGill wrote: post #93

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The expensive cars sell well in the us - customers are not that price inelastic. Those who are prefer a used car with all the high priced features of 5 years ago to a new car with no options

Agreed, that’s exactly what i did. But I wonder how much of that culture is because the new cheap Chinese cars aren’t here. If all you have in town is a target, that’s where people will shop. If you open up a goodwill there might be some handwringing and “I would never” rhetoric. But many people will go to the goodwill even if they don’t admit it.

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Post by LunaSea »

faust201 wrote: post #281
anvuong wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lawfully? How many IPs have they stolen from universities and companies across the world?

Nice. IP is one thing that has ruined many things. Unless you are WIPO and Oracle Fan. All current AI companies are closed. What benefit? Most things from Uni are published openly. BTW, did people in US pay royalty to China for inventing paper?

When was paper invented again?

Also does China publish it's companies IP publicly or is it just a one-sided relationship?

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Post by 1970-01-01 »

rootusrootus wrote: post #142

The US government has really handled this poorly. Let's take one of our closest allies and push them into the arms of our biggest rival. All while helping boost that rival's total exports to record numbers. And boosting their universities to top positions in world rankings. Just brilliant, guys. "Make America Great Again" sure seems like it was intentionally tongue-in-cheek.

The decision for slapping 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs was made by the Biden administration in 2024.

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Post by teemur »

mynegation wrote: post #270
asdff wrote: post #257

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The US? No, Trump.

That’s the point. Unless the system of checks and balances starts working again, there is no practical difference.

Yep. I don't know if anyone is interested in anecdotes, but looking from Europe, I will do my best to avoid any kind of US dependency until US has a) overhauled the legal system starting from the Supreme Court and b) gotten rid of the de facto two-party system. (No, one-party system does not count.)

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Post by LunaSea »

epolanski wrote: post #229
boringg wrote: post #151

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Who wants to be a trade partner with the US these days? I honestly ask people who aren't fully indoctrinated or already have ties established? Its a dependency that I have to think almost all countries/businesses are evaluating. How do you do business and set up long term supply chains in a country can't trust that the economic policy of today exists in 3 months, they are actively trying to undermine their currency a…

Anybody who knows what a huge market US is, filled with tons of millions of people that spend big, even when financially unsound.

But an unstable market which is not what companies want

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Post by quentindanjou »

TheScaryOne wrote: post #295
pjc50 wrote: post #234

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That's basically it. The Chinese government views the rest of the world through Hobbesian self interest, but in the late 20th century financial way. They want your money, but lawfully. The US has turned into something much more vindictive and unpredictable, including threatening to invade Canada.

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The actual reason was lobbying from US companies that were completely losing the competition because of the much lower price for the same or higher quality. But of course, we can try to come up with stories that don't hurt the patriotism ego.
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