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or asdf
I'm using Asdf too. Have heard well about Mise, but I haven't figured out what the difference is, so I have stayed with Asdf
Wowsers!
That +0.5 seconds delay will kill cats everywhere. We must microoptimise the startup time of shells!!!
Or ... we could simply use bash and KDE konsole with, say, 10 tabs. That setup works for me since ages; admittedly I use bash just as a wrapper for simple actions as well as calling a gazillion of aliases and mostly ruby scripts that do the real job. But damn I never knew there were guys who were concerned with +0.5 seconds delays caused by oh-my-zsh. The bloat! Oh my godsers!
What workflow involves opening hundreds of shells every day? Like, I've got a half dozen shells open at any given time, and sometimes I gotta refresh or reboot, but even on my worst day in looking at two dozen. How do you get to hundreds?
zsh is still crazy to me. I use bash for everything. I have no idea what I’m missing out on.
I've been using it for the last 6 or 7 years and I can only remember one specific feature I use a lot: "unset HISTFILE" to disable history when I need to run commands with passwords. Other than that, oh-my-zsh with git, systemd, and fzf plugins. Saves a lot of typing. The main selling point for me is how easy it is to setup.
Like many other people, I use oh-my-zsh for default setup and that's it. I literally use a single plugin for git and very actively autoload my custom functions to avoid startup delay. With my 384 line config and oh-my-zsh on, here are the results: $ hyperfine -N "zsh -lc 'exit 0'" "zsh -c 'exit 0'" Benchmark 1: zsh -lc 'exit 0' Time (mean ± σ): 54.5 ms ± 6.3 ms [User: 10.2 ms, System: 14.3 ms] Range (min … max): 38.1…
zmodload zsh/zprof
.. rest of your zsh config ..
zprof
I don't think 0.38s is a bad trade-off for convenience when the rest of the tools I need to do my job collectively are another 2s at shell startup. NVM alone adds 0.5-0.6s on my M4 Macbook Air. Bigger fish to fry if we're being practical.
GPT-5.2 changed the nvm initialization script to:
export NVM_DIR="$HOME/.nvm"
_nvm_lazy_load() {
unset -f nvm node npm npx _nvm_lazy_load
[ -s "$NVM_DIR/nvm.sh" ] && . "$NVM_DIR/nvm.sh"
}
nvm() { _nvm_lazy_load; nvm "$@"; }
node() { _nvm_lazy_load; command node "$@"; }
npm() { _nvm_lazy_load; command npm "$@"; }
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Caring enough to read a blog post and comment on hackernews, but not enough to copy/paste the changes from the blog post is a very fine line.
Not sure what your point argument is.
In your defense I must say I installed starship ages ago but still not migrated to it from powerline-go because I'm lazy.
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That misses the point. I don’t even want to think about any of that stuff. It’s a single command to install oh-my-zsh. I can fire it off, check Slack, and come back in 5 minutes. If I have to take 5 minutes to setup it up, I’m just not going to do it.
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hackernews: where a large portion of programmers are considered inferior because of the domain they work in (the domain where hackernews also lives)